July - September 2002 Entries
I am not familiar with the nicknames, but I think someone calling
himself Peace wrote something that I can't agree with. Tu devrais penser
à changer ton nickname, parce que ton comportement n'apporte pas la paix
sur le board. Je ne vais pas me prononcer sur cette affaire, au promoteur
de décider de concert avec les DJs quelles chansons ne pas jouer de peur
d'offencer quiconque.
PS: J'aimerais bien écouter, à la pause, Djakout Mizik, Carimi, Kompa
Kreyol si ce n'est pas trop demander.
A Samedi prochain donc si Dieu nous le permet; Zenglen will rock the place!
Alex
Maryland, - Monday, September 30, 2002 at 19:50:18 (EDT)
An nou fè youn ti ralenti tou piti. no need for name calling. Sé
pa ayisien selman ki gin issue. Tout nation gin issue pa yo. Si youn blan
di american noi ké li mangé chiken, american noi faché. Bon mouinmin mouin
mangé anpil chicken sitou lè malé caille Yonyon. It's good to see to old
timers coming back to the board. Welcome XOXO. Koté Ncog ak Poetic mézanmi.
Remember guys, it good to change ideas even if don't agree. Pendan ké to
sourit ap fè mikalaw sou board, mpral mangé diri ak chicken nan lunch. Si
youn moun di ayisien mangé anpil diri then I am ready to fight. Conversation
"ti sourit" sa interesan, kouniyé-a nou bezouin youn chat pou bagay la gaté
nèt.
Mobutoo
- Monday, September 30, 2002 at 12:32:25 (EDT)
Se pa ti kras issues non XOXO. Sorry about the post babe. Didn't
tou pete jye'w but I've had it with these people.
smoochees
- Monday, September 30, 2002 at 11:07:12 (EDT)
Reste, smoochees gade longe yon post , oh my god. ou fe zie mwen
fe mwen mal wi ti fi. LOL LOL. bali boulova. Ala pep gin "issues" se haitien.
XOXO
- Monday, September 30, 2002 at 11:04:09 (EDT)
Mezanmi bagay sa trop pou mwen. Mwen pa ka kinbe enko. Map swiv
board la longtemps. Mwen te di mwen pa tap fe komente mais bagay yo grav
trop. Gotta put my two sense in it...
Gro simone, cherie, ou pa bezwen di tout bagay sa yo. At first I was agreeing
with you with the "Ti sourit" song. It was not appropriate for the place/for
that moment. It is your choice si ou pat rinmin li. We respect that. Mais
si ou gade byen, la majorite moun en dedan an tap gouye. The dance floor
was packed. Minm mwen minm mwen tap voye monte sou bo pa'm nan. Sa fe longtemps
mwen pa tande ti sourit. So I was happy when they played it. Those DJs are
professional DJs. They can rock a house. Just because they played ti sourit,
a song that you think is offended to women, does not mean that they are
unprofessional and have no respect for people and next event coming up they
will play it again. You don't judge a book by its cover. Ou pat bezwen ap
trete moun de cretin/cretine. Bagay yo pat bezwen al jis la. Ou fe komete'w
epi that's it. It's good to criticize sometimes but when you take your criticism
and try to convince people ke sa ou di a se sa, then se vexe wap vexe moun.
Give the DJs a chance. Come out at the next event and see how they perform.
People came out to have fun and that's exactly what they did. Loosen up
girl. Have fun! Life is too short pou wap strese ko'w konsa...
Peace....#1, sa ou di a pa yon kritik du tou. Le wap fe yon bal nan yon
plas/lokasyon, se pa pou tout jounin an yo ba'w plas la. Se de tel le a
tel le. Most of the time, it's from 9-3am or even 8-3am. It all depends
on the manager of the place. Some of them are very pitty when it comes to
haitian renting places to throw a bal. Let's say si nou gin plas la de 8h
a 3h du matin, setting up for a band does not take 5 minutes. Surtout pou
jazz aysyen ki chaje ak mizisyen ladan. There's a lot to do. Se pa Micky
non ki gin ekipmen elektronik. Fe son pou yon jazz se pa jwet non. So se
pa fot mesye yo si le bal la rive epi yo avek ti mayo, mouchwa nan tet,
swe, ap mache sou moun. Se set up yap set up. Alors ou vle di'm se pou yo
vin tou kostime pou ya'l bourike. Apres na di gade yon ekip abitan kap mache
abiye senti fo sou moun. If you notice, they do go home and change after
setting up. Ou pa jenm we kote yap set up yon jazz potoprins. Se ti vagabon
senti fo wi ki set up. Bo icit la yo ba nou moun de byen epi nou jwen mwayen
pou nap plinyin. Bon sa'n ta di potoprins. #2,afe pou di wap kite bal demanding
your money an, ti mentalite makout sa yo pa a la mod enko tande. Se avek
aysyen selman pou nou ta fe frekan sa yo. Nou pap jenm al nan yon bagay
amerikin pou nou ap monte bibit nou. Se ak ti pep nou an selman. Babe, let
me tell you something, once you pay for your ticket, there's no money back.
Si ou pa satisfe, ou juste fe respe'w ou pa al nan bal Maryland enko. Mais
afe pou wap vin mande money back la, sa pa fet. There's no where on the
flyer or ticket that says " if you are not satisfy with the show, MONEY
BACK GUARANTEE ". Pa fe'm bagay konsa peace...
Master Konpa and Lakay Production did a great job. Mwen te byen enjoy bal
la along with Ti Sourit. Yon paket moun icit ki pat kanpe sou anyen nan
peyi yo, le yo vin bo icit la yap pran poz gwo bougwa edike yo. Ale we ayiti
yo pap pemet yo fe bagay konsa. Gin de bal kap fe potoprins, si ou pa kanpe
sou anyen ou pa gin kontak ou pap ka rentre. Se bo icit la foli bougwazi
a vin pran nou. Like tinana said, bo icit la se yon sel rekreasyion, se
yon meli melo, tout moun kontre. Bougw3a pa bay non ni li pa bay edikasyon.
Bougwa se moun sot ki fe edikasyon yo sou kob fanmi yo. Bougwa pa al lekol
non. Se kob lakay yo ki sel edikasyon yo. Se moun ki sot. Si yon moun ou
pense se bougwa ou ye, wap vin kache deye yon screen name pou ap pale tintin
sou yon board, bo icit la pa fet pou ou. Desan lakay ou. Blan an pa nan
tout rens sa yo avek nou. Nou pa yon merde devan li. Se travay li ba'w travay
pou peye bill. Si se bougwa ou te ye vre se pa nan ti Maryland lan ou tap
ye. Tout gwo bougwa yo se ayiti yo kanpe sou tet mone kinskof/florvil pou
yo ap domine La ville de Port au Prince. Sak ki nan exzile yo St domingue,
Europe pa nan Maryland nan.
So people let's all chill and do what we came here to do. Nap plinyin pa
gin fun Maryland, pa gin plezi, le yo ban nou yon ti fun nou pliyin plis.
Alors pep aysyen an pa jenm satisfe no matter how hard we try.
En tou ka map tan nou nan Zenglen an tande. Let's all relax and have fun.
Se tout le yap ban nou "ti sourit"
smoochees
- Monday, September 30, 2002 at 10:50:39 (EDT)
Could it be that those people got offended because the song hit
home? Guys, if you were fully paying attention to those lyrics, I don't
think those bands would make a dime...
Mwen gen yon ti konsey pou nou, le nou al nan bal, imagine ke se nan rekreation
nou ye...
Tinana
- Monday, September 30, 2002 at 09:11:44 (EDT)
Question of the Day "Ti Sourit", let's continue with the subject
shall we...
@mia
- Monday, September 30, 2002 at 09:02:38 (EDT)
Oh... I see exactly what they want to do now... these fake wannabe
Bougies. They wanna to tell us what to think what to wear and how to dance
and how to speak the even what song we can listen to. We've been fighting
against that since the slavery days. I agree with Ti-bobo, we will not let
these fake wanna be religious right wingers claim the hypocritical moral
majority high ground on us. Ck yourself homie b4 you reck yourself. You're
just a little Haitian immigrant seeking a better life in this country so
don't trip. The white folks are still trying to tell us the same thing,
their way is the more civilized way. U huuuurd.
Roland J.
- Sunday, September 29, 2002 at 11:26:17 (EDT)
An tou ka maladi makout sa yo gen yin an se pa li yo di dokte a
non. Se pa pwoblem mizik ni DJ non yo gen yin. Se yon ti pwoblem kontrol
yo bezwin fe tout moun morale yo ta rinmin ke se yo min'm avek ti attitude
elitis (fo boujwa) yo pou yo vin'n di nou kisa ki bon kisa ki pa bon pou
nou..... an tou ka nap di DJ' yo se pou nou jwe "ti Sourit" nimpot le lide
nou dinou ... depi publik la ap danse bali bwa.. sa ki pa kontan yo, ya
al mande remet lajan yo pou mizik kap jwe ke yo pa rinmin.
Tibobo
- Sunday, September 29, 2002 at 11:14:24 (EDT)
I'm sorry but that is the most ridiculous thing I've heard. You
can't go Anywhere ELSE in the DC area and do that crap. YOU going to walk
out because YOU don't like A song that a DJ plays.
Am I the only one who saw the dance floor PACKED with other people dancing.
If a DJ puts on a record and EVERYONE leaves the floor, the DJ himself will
take out that music. BUT as long as the floor is filled and people are dancing,
PLAY ON DJs.
Gen plis makout isi ke Ayiti... Kote Yves... oh, I mean Ayibobo
map swiv
- Saturday, September 28, 2002 at 20:43:24 (EDT)
Gro simone, chapo ou se yon fanm konsekan, yon fanm vanyan. Mwen
pa konnen si ou gen pitit, men si mwen ta nan plas yo mwen ta fye de manmanm.
Messieurs les DJs soyez professionels. Un peu de respect pour vous-memes.
Cette musique n'avait pas sa place. gen bon konpa nou te ka jwe. next time
pito nou ban mwen yon ti rap kreyol (King Posse Dayana), (Brothers Posse
: Anne).
Etre mediocre ca se comprend, mais perseverer dans la mediocrite est un
peche. Epi menye abiye nou pou nou resevwa moun. SE PA LE DJAZ LA AP AKODE,
MOUN AP ANTRE POU NAP MACHE AK TI MAYO CHALE NOU, MOUCHWA NAN TET TOU SWE
SOU MOUN. Un peu de tenue. MWEN TAP PALE AK YON ZANMI MWEN, LI PROPOZE YON
BAGAY MWEN DAKO. SI NAN YON BAL MOUN DEBYEN TI MESYE DJ YO PASE JAN DE MIZIK
SA ANKO, NAP KITE BAL LA ET NAP EGZIJE LAJAN NOU NAN POT LA. "LAGE AVETI
PA TOUYE KOKOBE". LUC BERNARD PALE YO SOUPLE... HUMMMMMMM???? SE SA
Peace
dc, - Friday, September 27, 2002 at 23:04:27 (EDT)
gro simone, I have no doubt that if we ever sit and talk that we
agree more than disagree. However, there's a time to be an "activist," and
there's a time to just chill and have some fun.
90% of music today, from hip hop, dancehall, r&b, rock, etc, maybe offensive
to women. There's time for vegetables and there's time for McDonald's.
map swiv
- Friday, September 27, 2002 at 20:08:12 (EDT)
VRAIMENT LES MOTS ME MANQUENT POUR TRADUIRE MA PEINE EN LISANT
LES COMMENTAIRES DE MES FRERES & SOUERS AU SUJET DE CE QUE J'AI ECRIT SUR
CETTE AFFAIRE DE "TI SOURIT".
IL PARAIT QUE NOS JEUNES SONT AVEUGLES PAR LE FANATISME CAR ILS SONT SURTOUT
PRETS A DEFENDRE LA POSITION DES DJS AU LIEU DE COMPRENDRE L'ESSENCE DE
CE J'AVAIS AVANCE.
SANS INDISCRETION MES AMIS PERMETTEZ MOI DONC DE DIRE QUE MALHEURESEMENT
J'AI PAS PU TROUVER SUR CETTE "BROAD" UNE PERSONNE EN MESURE ET A LA HAUTEUR
DE CE DONT J'AVAIS METICULEUSEMENT DIT.
SI SE TI SOURIT NOU MERITE ALORS QUE MASTER COMPAS CALE LI BA NOU TOUT TAN
MEDAMES.
N'ESPERE PAS NON PLUS DE JOLIES FLEURS ET LES BONS PARFUMS DE NOS "GASSON
AYICIEN" SI NOU PA GUEN KOURAJ POU NOU DI YO METE YO DEYO AK TI SOURIT SANTI
YA.
SI DEMIN NOU WE YOU NEG AP JOURE YOU FI OU BIEN LAP BAT YOU FI, FOK NOU
KA GUIN KOURAJ TOU POU NOU BAT BRAVO POU NEG SA, MIN'M JAN JAN NOU BAT BRAVO
POU TI SOURIT LA
OUI J'AI CRITIQUE NOS DJS, JE VOULAIS SEULEMENT LEUR FAIRE COMPRENDRE KE
JAN OU ABIYE POU AL NAN CARNAVAL SE PA KONSA OU ABIYE POU ALE NAN SOIREE
DE GALA --.CHAK MIZIK TOU GUIN PLACE YO .-- QUESTION D'EDUCATION -- SA KI
PA COMPRAN'N SA AUSSI CRETIN KE DJ YO.--- CRETINS---CRETINES--
GRO SIMONE
ROCKVILLE, MD - Friday, September 27, 2002 at 19:43:05 (EDT)
Si nap palé de voudou kap fè moun mal, mpa couè nan bagay sa. Min
gin anpil moun ki couè ladan'n. Gro Simone, ou di youn bagay sou mo nan
mizik tisourit la. I've never heard that That song or If I had I don't recall.
But you are right in a sense but it is not only ti sourit. If you listen
closely, most haitian songs start well and then I don't know what happened.
They say anything especially when they are playing live. Listen to any song,then
and try to translate it a friend. I guess we love the haitian songs mainly
because of the "beat". I try not to listen too much because if I do, I would
not dance often. I like it better when they say "kité konpa'm maché" or
"maestro ban'm fon cou" so I won't hear about "moun ap esseyé krazé jazz
la" or "Li poté diri" ou bien "gacon makomè" or "min nimero-a"etc....min
yo gin bel beat. If you listen too much you will be very disappointed. But
you are right we should pay attention to what we are dancing, singing etc.
Maybe one day soon we will have well written haitian songs pou maché ak
bel beat compa-a. Board la bral bat moin net la. Malé.
Mobutoo
- Friday, September 27, 2002 at 08:34:17 (EDT)
hmmmmm!!! Ala tra ka papa!
smooochees
- Thursday, September 26, 2002 at 21:46:18 (EDT)
Nap pale de 'TI sourite" kulture nou ce voduizan mezan sispan kritike
anpil moun tap dance, e sak fe ayisyen pap gem rive, suspan kritike renmen
lot pito,and then our country will be better.Nice job Jean Luc Bernanrd
and the master Compas dj and sounds:) :) :)
Titite
- Thursday, September 26, 2002 at 20:06:16 (EDT)
NAP PALE DE
Titite
- Thursday, September 26, 2002 at 19:58:20 (EDT)
Hello S.P .
Please note that I never said that there will be a "SPECIAL" award for anyone
. About six people in the community will receive awards at the 12th anniversary
of Haiti A Suivre concert for their contributions to the Haitian entertainment
industry in the Washington metropolitan area.
Come to the show and you will know who they are and what they did.Hope to
see you there.
Mwen renmen nou toute.
Jean C Vivens < jcvivens@mris.com>
Wheaton, Md - Thursday, September 26, 2002 at 14:47:05 (EDT)
Hello once again to everyone,I just want to let you know that if
you need information about the party,you can call Jean Richard @ 301-891-3001
or 301-674-4313.
The party is this Saturday @ Adeli Restaurant 6495 New Hampshire Ave Hyattsville
Md---Bank of America Building.--
Music by Tiz & Black Alex -
Food & music for only $15.00 -
You can also see the band this Thursday night at 5 & 10 pm and Saturday
@ 4 & 10 pm on HAITI A SUIVRE CH 13 in Montgomery County.
Please note my new e-mail address :jcvivens@mris.com.
I can also be reach at 240-463-7196
Moin renmen nou toute.
Jean C Vivens < jcvivens@mris.com>
Wheaton, Md - Thursday, September 26, 2002 at 13:36:23 (EDT)
Question of the day!!!!
Since "Ti sourit" is a big issue on the board this week, let's talk about
our Culture...
What's your take on Voodoo?
@mia
- Thursday, September 26, 2002 at 09:10:17 (EDT)
Gro Simone, I respect your view and I appreciate your posts...It
is always good to have a sisters like yourself who's not affraid of standing
up for what she beleives in...But if you go as far as letting a "word" in
a particular song offended you, one can easily come to the conclusion ke
ou pa di doctè ya ki maladi ou soufri...It must be something else that makes
you feel that way..And, only you and your GOD know what could it be."Ti
Sourit" is for the Haitians what "Fres Jacques" is for the french or what
"Happy birthday is for the Americans, for the last 10 years it becames part
of what makes us dance, part what makes our farmers sing during a hard working
day.GUEDE se nou, se rasin nou bien ke mwen menm avèw ka pa kwè la dan'n..Only
12 months after sept 11 the Jay Leno's show and the late night show of David
Laiderman are fiding ways to create some humors of that tragedy not because
they don't care about the victims but beacause life must go on Regardless
of the cisconstence...By any mean dear keep your posts coming Perhaps we
can start a real debate on what really concerns us members of the same diaspo
ALATRAKA < ALATRAKA@AlaKK.com>
HELLTOWN, MD - Thursday, September 26, 2002 at 08:31:34 (EDT)
MAP SWIV -I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT MY COMMENTS WERE TO BRING AWARENESS
TO PEOPLE LIKE YOU . MY DEAR YOU SAID IT YOUR SELF THAT YOU WERE DANCING
TO THE TUNE WITHOUT PAYING ATTENTION TO THE WORDS-
ONCE AGAIN LET ME REPEAT THAT THE SONG "TI SOURIT" IS OFFENSIVE TO WOMAN
.IT IS A GUEDE SONG AND SOULD BE PLAYED AT VOODOO SHOWS NOT UNDER ST MICHAEL
CHURCH - NOT AT FAMILY PICNICS -NOT AT BIRTHDAY PARTIES & WEDDINGS-A PROFFESSIONAL
DJ SHOULD CHOOSE ITS MUSICS ACCORDING TO THE OCCASION - I PERSONALLY DON'T
HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST MASTER COMPAS THEY ARE MY BOYS TOO -BUT I THINK YOU
ARE A WOMAN,PROBABLY A YOUNG WOMAN. SISTER YOU WOULD NOT LIKE ANYONE TO
CALL YOU A NIGER, A BITCH OR ANY OTHER THING THAT MAY BE OFFENSIVE TO A
YOUNG LADY.--WHY WOULD YOU OR WHY SHOULD YOU DANCE TO A TUNE THAT IS OFFENSIVE
TO WOMAN- IF YOU DO, FINE -ME I EXPRESS MY SELF ON THE BROAD TO SAY THAT
I DON'T WANT TO. IF OUR MOTHERS USED TO DANCE TO "FAN'M KOLOKINTE" BY COUPE
CLOUE, THAT WAS THEN -THIS IS NOW.- WE SHOULD SAY NO -NO NO -AND IF THE
OTHER LADIES ON THE BROAD FEEL THAT IT'S OK TO BE OFFENDED THEN WE HAVE
A BIG PROBLEM IN THIS COMMUNITY -
TO MAKE MATTERS WORSE THE PRODUCER OF THAT CD MAKE SURE THAT A FEMALE SING
"TI SOURIT" ON THE ALBUM.
IN VOODOO "PAPA GUEDE" IS A MALE LOA THAT CAN ALSO GO IN A FEMALE BODY.
LADIES, WHEN AN HAITIAN MAN, LIKE THAT GUEDE IN THE SONG, SAID MAP TAILLEZ
FAN'M NAN JIS SOLEY LE ,HE DOESN'T MEAN THAT I 'AM MAKING LOVE TO HER UNTIL
THE SUN COMES UP, BUT "TAILLEZ" IN THAT WAY IS: THE "F" WORD .
LADIES PLEASE, THIS IS THE YEAR 2002-TELL MASTER COMPAS OR ANY OTHER DJ
THAT WE LIKE OUR "ALL I WANT" OUR "PLEASE BABY" OUR "MANMAN MIA" BUT NOT
THAT CROP "LANGUETTE MADIVINAISE PA BEZOIN CHANDEL POUL KLERE" FOR OUR $25.00
BOX
ARE YOU WITH ME --HOPE YOU NOW UNDERSTAND BETTER YOUNG SISTER.
gro simone
rockville, md - Wednesday, September 25, 2002 at 23:44:04 (EDT)
$35 trò chè! from 11:30 to 2 pm. It's not worth it. Evendo its my
man Sweet Miky. I would pay $30 for Strings, Beethova, Emelyne Michel, Boulot
Valcourt, ... but not $35 for micky. I am sorry guys, I am not a big fan
of Micky enough to spend $35 plus for night.
Smooches kouman ou te abiye, paske mwen te remake tout bèl medam yo.
Peace
DC, - Wednesday, September 25, 2002 at 22:54:39 (EDT)
I thank the bal is kind off too expensive. Especially Micky is not
the hottest band right now. But anyway, I don't know the promoter's expences.
FOK LI VIV MEZANMI
Rose
- Wednesday, September 25, 2002 at 22:38:39 (EDT)
"Jolimene" are you related to Kikine by any chance? By the way,
welcome to the board...
@mia
- Wednesday, September 25, 2002 at 10:55:35 (EDT)
Eskize'm, is it (the quote) supposed to be an answer to the "question
of the day"?
ede'm souple...
@mia
- Wednesday, September 25, 2002 at 10:53:29 (EDT)
Mr Zephir, ou ka tradwi pasaj sa pou nou an kreyol. Epi bay opinyon
pa'w sou li.
Jolimene
- Wednesday, September 25, 2002 at 10:46:15 (EDT)
Say what?
@mia
- Wednesday, September 25, 2002 at 10:32:09 (EDT)
"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose
face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs
and comes short again and again, who knows the great enthusiasms, the great
devotions, and spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best, knows
the
triumph of high achievement; and who, at the worst, if he fails at least
fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those
cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat." -Theodore Roosevelt
Strings Man < jean@ejzdesign.com>
Silver Spring, MD - Wednesday, September 25, 2002 at 09:59:48 (EDT)
Personally, $35 wouldn't be an issue if the bal wasn't from 9pm-2pm.
The party will never start on time, perhaps the promoter should change the
time to 11:00- 1:30 (wink, wink). Then again let's not blame the promoters,
for it is becoming harder and harder to find a decent venue in this area.
Fe yon bal nan washington area se yon risk. As far as the location goes,
I don't have any comments b/c I have not been there.
Anyway,Se pa jodi'a mwen pa danse yon Sweet Micky, I hope I get my money's
worth.
MIMI
- Wednesday, September 25, 2002 at 09:52:17 (EDT)
Question of the day!!!
Do you think it's fair to charge $35 per person (in advance) for a Ball
@ Dave & Buster?
Rules to participate in this forum... don't name names, no details regarding
expenses...
Overall "Let us Keep It Simple Stupid"...
None ya
- Wednesday, September 25, 2002 at 09:28:15 (EDT)
Peace....where's Tiz and black Alex on the 28th?
smoochees
- Wednesday, September 25, 2002 at 09:05:08 (EDT)
Peace......Ou pa konnin'm se sak fe ou pat we'm nan. Mwen te la
en gran jen :)
smoochees
- Wednesday, September 25, 2002 at 08:31:20 (EDT)
Hey, Do not forget "Tiz" from Boston and "Black Alex"
Saturday September 28th. Ki lòt moun ajimal ap bay Award apre DJ woolado.
Nou espere se moun kap fè bon bagay tankou DJ Woolado. Mwen ta rinmin konin
ki kote non "ajimal" sa soti.
Smooches mwen pat wè ou non
PEACE
DC, - Tuesday, September 24, 2002 at 16:30:17 (EDT)
Welcome to Washington DC and the board Akua. Hope you enjoy and
have a good time. We have 3 more events coming up...
Oct 5th------ZENGLEN
Oct 19th-----Sweet Micky
Nove.--------Tabou/Eric Virgal and Orlane
Check out the concert section to stay up to date.
Again.....WELCOME!
smoochees
- Tuesday, September 24, 2002 at 12:06:10 (EDT)
hi,
my name is akua and i am happy i found this sounding board. My future husband
is haitian and is fairly new to the dc/md area. we have been unsuccessful
in finding the haitian community here. we are always looking for events
and activities in the haitian community and it would be great to finally
connect with you all. So if there is any event, a party, forum, class, concert
or whatever we are down. I am so upset that i missed Zin!!
look forward to connecting with you all.
Akua
Akua < akua79@yahoo.com>
washington, dc - Tuesday, September 24, 2002 at 11:54:08 (EDT)
Zin was great. This is the first successful event Lacaye Production
had accomplished after so many years. Pour vous dire, la communaute Haitienne
etait soif de Zin. D'autre en plus, j'en suis sure que Bernard was not the
only person, as stated by some of you, who made it possible. YON GROS KOUT
CHAPEAU POUR PENN; without him ... we wouldn't have the ZIN band playing
here. Li retire trace kalmason te kite lan kominote nou - an. Thank you
PENN.
Map li
Chevy Chase, Md - Tuesday, September 24, 2002 at 09:54:40 (EDT)
jean c v - can you please tell us what make you choose djwolado
for the special award.
s.p
- Monday, September 23, 2002 at 23:11:31 (EDT)
jean c v - can you please tell us what make you choose djwolado
for the special award.
s.p
- Monday, September 23, 2002 at 23:10:56 (EDT)
jean c v - can you please tell us what make you choose djwolado
for the special award.
s.p
- Monday, September 23, 2002 at 23:10:14 (EDT)
Agimal,
I think it's a great idea my friend, keep doing this kind of event. I think
you will have a great show with Tabou, Eric Virgal ect... I am well aware
of a good job that DJ Woolado is doing in the community. Mwen paka jan'm
bliye DC Kanaval ane sa. Congratulation DJ Woolado.
That along will push the other DJs to progress
Jean
- Monday, September 23, 2002 at 21:44:47 (EDT)
gro simone, baby, please, relax... The concert was great. OK - YOU
don't like "ti sourit," but there the floor was packed with people dancing
it.
If you didn't like it, it's all good, but they shouldn't stop playing it
only 'cause of you.
By the way what's "ti sourit" about? I seriously don't know... Zorey mwen
ou Kreyol mwen komanse ap kite'm.
map swiv
- Monday, September 23, 2002 at 20:53:53 (EDT)
I THINK ZIN WAS GREAT -SE SA NET- HOWEVER MASTER COMPA MERITE YOU
GRO ZERO -BERNARD SHOULD TELL THEM NOT TO PLAY CERTAIN SONGS LIKE THAT "TI
SOURIT" CRAP -SE TE NAN YOU BAL MOUNE DE BIEN NOU TE ALE YA ,SE PAT NAN
GUEDE SAN FIL NOU TE ALE POU $25.00 NOU AN.GROW UP GUYS, ENOUGH PLEASE ENOUGH
GIVE RESPECT TO THE HAITIAN LADIES .
THE PROMOTERS SHOULD TELL MASTER COMPAS TO SHOW SOME
R E S P E C T
THREE YEARS AGO THEY PLAY THAT SAME SONG AT MARQUET EUGENE'S PICNIC IN THE
PRESENCE OF SMALL CHILDREN AND THE ELDERLIES.
ZIN WAS GOOD NOW LET'S GET READY FOR ZENGLEN-MIKI IN OCTOBER -TABOU COMBO-
ORLANE & ERIC VIRGAL IN NOVEMBER.
gro simone
rockville, md - Monday, September 23, 2002 at 18:50:16 (EDT)
Alex welcome! This is a wonderfull board. I hope you enjoy it.
Mirtha
Germantown, MD - Monday, September 23, 2002 at 10:52:55 (EDT)
Alex welcome!
Mirtha
Germantown, MD - Monday, September 23, 2002 at 10:50:58 (EDT)
Hello everybody! My name is Alex, it is not a nickname it is my
firstname. I used to read the board, but this is my first time writing.
I just want to say CHAPO to Lakay Productions. Good Job Luc and Family,
and friends.
Nou te gen yon bèl flyer tou wi sò di Bernard! (lol). I will always be there
to support the Haitian Culture, the promoters, the DJs... and so should
u all.
Alex
silver spring, - Sunday, September 22, 2002 at 22:34:30 (EDT)
Zin was GREAT....10 sur 10 pou lakay productions. Jazz te dous.
Gadon ALAN sa! I had a wondderful time. Moun Washington DC yo te swaf jazz
la. Tout moun tap kadense nan zin. Se a gauche a droite nan tout sal la.
Hoep they come back again soon.
Again a big BRAVO for Lakay Productions. Thank you!
Now let's get ready pou bon konpa heavy a.......ZENGLENNNNNNN.
smoochees
- Sunday, September 22, 2002 at 10:54:07 (EDT)
Come on all.........finally ZIN will be here tomorrow ....wowwwww.
Let's go and enjoy ourselves ....guys/gals........
Thanks to Bernard Jacquelin for promoting "The band of Love" sa,sa,sa se-eee
ZZZINNNN.
Smoochees eske ouap la bonheur! Na oue........AMWEYYYYY!
se mwen
Bel Air, - Friday, September 20, 2002 at 16:21:43 (EDT)
Mobu, to add to your comment, I don't think it's fair to use other
people's name when one needs to express his/her opinion, it is happening
on the board...
whoever you are, you should be man enough to stand on your own...
Gin moun nan board lan, mwen pa konin nan ki trou yo soti, yo toujou la
pou ap bay nom...Repete apre'm
R.E.S.P.E.C.T
@mia
- Friday, September 20, 2002 at 13:37:34 (EDT)
I would like to start by saying hello to each and everyone of you.my
name is Jean c Vivens aka Agimal.Three weeks ago Jean Michel told me about
the Echo d'haiti guestbook,I think it's nice and fun with some very interesting
interactions.
Gro Simone moin pense ke ou guin le kon'n fe bal tou( JUST KIDDING), min
ou bliye you depense importan se ki se son .The sound system now cost about
1000 dollars to rent per show.
Things are really hard now for the promoters.
Ransom ,I don't know if you are a dj or not, min jcv productions toujou
fe effort pou honore dj nou yo.Annee sa nou ap honore dj Woolado nan Awards
night la kap fet nan Blair High School Auditorium Samedi 30 Novembre 2002
(Thanksgiving weekend)a 7 pm.
Tabou Combo, Eric Virgal, Orlane ,Doudou Chancy ,Fanfan ,The Sinit (HIP
HOP GROUP OF MY SON RANDY) and The 4 J's are scheduled to perform
Ginau of echodhaiti.com and many more will receive awards for their contributions
to the Haitian entertainment industry in the Washington metropolitan area.
Remember I love you all.
Agimal < jcvinc@aol.com>
wheaton, md usa - Friday, September 20, 2002 at 11:05:19 (EDT)
Board la tounin COWBOY nèt. Lè youn moun bay youn opinion ou bien
di youn bagay ki pa tro populè gin moun ki préparé pou bat yo. Gradually
some "gro ponyèt" ap monté sou board pou kalé moun. If something is said
and we don't agree, let's discuss it. Whether what was said is true or not,
"kicking" Gro Simone, Relax and Ransom will not change a thing. Antouka.
Map suiv pou'm wè si board la ap tounin "Cowboy".
Mobutoo
- Friday, September 20, 2002 at 08:25:13 (EDT)
woy u people are ridiculous. Ur complaining about price and distance.First
of all, distance is not a factor around here, se pa Haiti nou ye la. Sepa
yon trajet petion-ville Jacmel non! Les gro simone, relax and Ransom,grow
up!If I had known u guys I would have kicked ur asses.Neg yo bay pou Ransom
lan menm ap voye moun fe math.nou pata di yon avadra!
bambin
- Thursday, September 19, 2002 at 18:59:15 (EDT)
Se konsa bagay yo ye kounieya, le nou pedi kredibilite nou nan zone
nan, nou prete nom moun san pemisyon pou nou poste radot...
@mia
- Thursday, September 19, 2002 at 18:23:21 (EDT)
UNE NOUVELLE VISION DE LA POLITIQUE
Un enfant demande à son père: "Papa, c'est quoi la politique?" ; Son père
répond: "Et bien mon fils, c'est un peu complique, mais je vais essayer
de te l'expliquer quand même. Disons qu'une province ou un pays, c'est comme
une famille.
Dans notre famille, c'est moi papa qui apporte l'argent a la maison; alors
on va m'appeler Capitalisme. Ta maman, c'est elle qui prend la plupart des
décisions de la famille, et qui s'occupe d'acheter les choses et de régler
les dépenses; alors on va l'appeler le Gouvernement.
Maman et moi, nous sommes ici pour s'occuper de toi notre fils et s'assurer
que tu ne manques de rien, alors on va t'appeler le Peuple. La femme de
ménage, on va l'appeler la Classe ouvrière. Quant à ton petit frère, bébé,
on va l'appeler l'Avenir du pays.
Penses a tout ca, mon grand et demain au petit déjeuner tu me diras ce que
tu en penses."
Le petit garçon va se coucher en pensant a toutes ces nouvelles choses qu'il
vient d'apprendre. Un peu plus tard dans la nuit, il entend son petit frère
qui pleure. Apres un moment, il se lève et va voir ce qui se passe.
En arrivant, il voit que son petit frère a fait un très gros caca dans sa
couche, alors il se dirige vers la chambre de ses parents et il voit sa
mère qui dort profondément sans son père a ses cotes. Il cherche donc dans
la maison, et découvre son père entrain de faire
l'amour avec la femme de ménage dans le salon. Un peu confus de la situation,
il décide de retourner se coucher sans déranger personne.
Le lendemain au petit déjeuner, le petit garçon dit a son père: "Je crois
que j'ai compris comment ca marche la politique papa".
"Ah oui? C'est très bien", dit le père. "Et qu'est ce que tu as découvert?"
"Et bien, pendant que le Gouvernement est endormi, le Capitalisme baise
la Classe ouvrière. Cette situation fait que le Peuple est complètement
ignoré et que l'avenir du Pays est dans la merde".
se mwen
Bel Air, - Thursday, September 19, 2002 at 15:16:47 (EDT)
If it costs $6000 for hotel for one night, we should invest in the
hotel industry. Maybe own one, we would charge cheaper rates. Hotel pi expensive
que jazz la? Gin trop moun nan jazz yo kap fait bri. We need to invite jazz
with fewer members like ti-vice, gros-vice & Micky to save on hotel cost.
We've been charge $50 before therefore I think $35 is a bargain for Micky
if he starts on time.
Relax
- Thursday, September 19, 2002 at 09:09:49 (EDT)
THE PROMOTERS ARE PAYING ABOUT $1000 FOR THOSE MALLS AND
BASEMENTS Maybe.IT COST ABOUT $6000 AT LEAST FOR A HOTEL -THE AVERAGE HAITAN
BAND CHARGE ABOUT $4000 for live artist $1500 preprogram keyboard call digital,
TO COME TO MARYLAND.OTHER EXPENSES ARE ADVERTIZING,LODGING,INSURANCE,TRANSPORTATION,SECURITY
FOR ANOTHER $3000 NOW YOU DO THE MATH. How many members does ZIN, ZINGLEN,
Micky, Tabou have in the group, dont forget t-vice
Lets support our local DJ's,
Specialy this coming holiday.
? how many band play kompa with out digital and original music can you name.
? should a promoter pay the same for digital vs. live artist
RANSOM
Temple Hill, MD - Thursday, September 19, 2002 at 07:47:53 (EDT)
TI BOBO - I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE YOUR OWN CLUB OR DANCE HALL IN
THE COMMUNITY.JUST TRY TO GET THE INFO ABOUT GETTING ONE & YOU WILL KNOW
BETTER.NOU PITI TOUJOU BO ICIT LA .NEW YORK AK MIAMI BAL YO GARANTI 500
A 2000 MOUNE ET MALGRE TOU VIRE TOUNIN CLUB HAITIEN LIKE BRASSERIE CREOL
OU BIEN BEL PLACE LIKE PLANET MALIBU IN N.Y OR PLANET CREOL IN MIAMI IS
SHUT DOWN.IT'S NOT EASY. DO YOU REMEMBER VILLA LACAY -CLOSE- NO SUPPORT-
THE PROMOTERS ARE PAYING ABOUT $2500 FOR THOSE MALLS AND BASEMENTS .IT COST
ABOUT $6000 AT LEAST FOR A HOTEL -THE AVERAGE HAITAN BAND CHARGE ABOUT $5000
TO COME TO MARYLAND.OTHER EXPENSES ARE ADVERTIZING,LODGING ,INSURANCE,TRANSPORTATION
,SECURITY FOR ANOTHER $3000
NOW YOU DO THE MATH.
THE AVERAGE HAITAN BAL HERE CANNOT GARANTY 400 PEOPLE AT $20.00-NOW ONCE
AGAIN YOU DO THE MATH.
I DON'T DO BALS BUT I TALK TO THOSE GUYS AND THEY ALL ARE SAYING THE SAME
THING.--BROTHER, JUST SUPPORT THEM BECAUSE WITHOUT THEM INVESTING THEIR
MONEY ,TAKING THE RISK,PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND I WOULD HAVE TO TRAVEL AT LEAST
300 MILES TO DANCE OUR COMPAS-
BUT HEY HAROLD $35.00 IS ANRAGE FOR A SHOW THAT WILL END AT 2 AM. IF MIKI
START AT 11 PM OR LATER (AS USUAL FOR A MIKI BAL ) THAT WILL BE A 3 HOUR
SHOW FOR 35 BIG ONE. EPI KI MANGE ATO .I LIKE YOU AND YOUR EFFORT TO KEEP
THE COMPAS ALIVE HERE BUT PA GATE BAGAY YO TOU .DON'T FORCE IT .THIS IS
PUSHING IT BOSS PAPA.
gro simone
rockville, md - Wednesday, September 18, 2002 at 22:31:36 (EDT)
Please don't start with the mentality "si se pa Mall, se an ba basement".
All malls are malls, all malls are not the same. White Flint Mall cannot
be compared to other mall(s) we've attended parties at. Ale pote curiosite
avan que nou commence pale.
Pingah
Chevy Chase, MD - Tuesday, September 17, 2002 at 09:34:30 (EDT)
I need a date for ZIN, holla back !
Yo
- Monday, September 16, 2002 at 10:20:30 (EDT)
Ransom.......do I know you? That name sounds familiar.
Bon sa kap pase la hein. Mwen pa konpran langaj ke nap pale la.
String man.......I'll be there.
smoochees
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 11:40:26 (EDT)
Se swa nou nan mall ou byin nou nan besmint legliz ... se swa ou
Skah Shah ou byin ou #1.....
Tibobo
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 19:39:46 (EDT)
"I AM NOT A CROOK, BUT I CAN'T VOUCH FOR ANYONE ELSE"
-Ayibobo
Nixon
what does he gain by saying something like that. If it not Harold Joseph,
it's Jean Zephyr, then Jean Michel now Yves & trait Union. Ayibobo always
has a negative comment about everyone.
Now let's go to the MALL, with Ayibobo $35.in adv.
Ransom
Temple Hills, MD - Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 18:07:52 (EDT)
From A to Z se ZIN
I will be there, It's Party Time
smoochess, aybobo, yo pramn, nixon, be there or be square
StringsMan < jean@ejzdesign.com>
Silver Spring, MD - Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 17:10:06 (EDT)
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SEPTEMBER 21ST 2002
LAKAY PRODUCTIONS
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Doors Open @ 9:30pm
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TICKETS:
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zinfever
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 15:46:56 (EDT)
ko-ooolangiet..... $35.00 Oh ! jan Miky toujou ap di li se milione
gen le se mwin kap travay di epi map peye Miky poul ka milione......
Tibobo
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 22:30:10 (EDT)
Nixon...mwen pa konpran. What do u mean by u r not a crook?
smoochees
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 16:26:27 (EDT)
Ah pa komanse non. It's micky playing. i will anything to go see
micky.
Yopranm...mwen konnin wap la kan meme....lol. Ou se yon pa ka pa la.
smoochees
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 16:25:24 (EDT)
$35 for a bal , wow...
Yopran'm
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 16:02:52 (EDT)
"I AM NOT A CROOK, BUT I CAN'T VOUCH FOR ANYONE ELSE
Nixon
Washington, DC - Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 14:46:27 (EDT)
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Live in concert
Saturday October 19, 2002
9:00PM - 2:00AM
DAVE & BUSTER'S
The Show Room
White Flint Mall, 3rd Level
11301 Rockville Pike, North Bethesda, MD 20895
(Enter from 3rd level parking lot)
FREE ASSORTED HORS D'OEUVRES UNTIL 11:00PM
FREE T-SHIRTS TO FIRST 30 LADIES
$35.00 IN ADVANCE
INFO: 301-648-4800
TICKETS:
Chez Yonyon: 301-408-4779
J & M Auto: 301-562-0877
Bobby Express: 202-722-4925
Claude Coiffeur:301-434-0821
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Silver Spring, MD - Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 12:46:26 (EDT)
GOD Bless America! God bless the everyday heroes.
Antouka medam gen twa pwogram kap vini la, ZIN, ZENGLEN, MICKY. Pap gen
pouse pap gen goumen. Moun Washington se moun swa.
God bless "VIBES" ki te simen bon kompa sou nou nan Washington pou Labor
Day la.
peace
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 23:06:19 (EDT)
For those who think that this is just an American thing, Think of
all the people who died on the planes and in the buildings, they couldn't
have all been Americans.
May God Bless Us All.
Ncog
Washington, DC - Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 18:44:02 (EDT)
As the first anniversary of September 11th approaches, memories
of horror, of great sadness, and of wonder at individual acts of heroism
come flooding back. It is fitting that we gather together for a few moments
of quiet reflection, to honor those that died so tragically and those who
fought to save them. We also give thanks for being here today. Let's all
take a few moments and say a few words...
MAY GOD BLESS AMERICA!
smoochees
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 22:05:54 (EDT)
Thank you titite....I'm sorry you had a bad time. Yo pap jwen nou
enko. Mwen manke pedi la vi'm wi. O!
smoochees
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 08:32:43 (EDT)
Mezanmi ou pale la verite moun NY sovag, yo pa respecte ci gen fille
l'an foule la tou, it was a bad experience to me too, i hope the DC carnival
never come to this point
smooch ou pale la verite baby
Titite < boo@aol.com>
hyattsville, - Thursday, September 05, 2002 at 11:02:22 (EDT)
Peace.......Labor day a te bon anpil wi. Kanaval la te OK. Nothing
to bragg about. Maybe to some people it was off the hook but for me se te
premye e denye fwa mal frote ak moun NY. Kote map entre nan foul ayiti mwen
pap entre nan foul NY. Ayisyen NY yo sovaj. Kanaval labor day pat jenm interese'm.
Mwen toujou monte NY labor day weekend mais kon lundi a rive mwen chache
rout lakay mwen. Mwen pat kon sak te pase'm ane sa. Jouda mwen jouda trop.
Se pa de bourad yo pa banm nan kanaval sa. Sak pi red la ou pa ka fouti
danse telman wap veye kot yon kout boutey ap soti ou byen yo kout kouto.
Se pa de lobey ki pat ginyin nan kanaval sa. NEVER AGAIN.......NEVER! Moun
NY se diab. Ayisyen se ti bet. Se pou yo gin chef nan mitan yo kap pilonlin
yo ak makak pou yo konpote yo. O....m'cesi! Le fini tou se T-Vice ak Konpa
Kreol ki te sou parkway a. Mwen pat minm gin tan jwen Konpa Kreol. Yo pase
granm matin. I might as well say se T-Vice ki te la selman. Mwen pi pito
ti kanaval pa nou an bo icit la. Nou minm nou fe bagay de klas. Byen ke
nou pa kon gin jazz ki soti, it's OK. Ma degaje'm ak DJ yo. O!!!
It was a bad experience. Kanaval labor day NY.......NEVER AGAIN!!! Tone
boule'm yo pap jwen mwen enko.
Anybody else went and had a wonderful time?
smoochees
- Thursday, September 05, 2002 at 09:03:37 (EDT)
Pas de commentaires concernant le picnic. Ca fait honte.
Kote smooch... kouman NY la te ye. Antouka Vibes ak harry Juste la te bon.
Malerezman mwen pat gen fanm pou mwen danse.
Ti mesye VIBES yo ap tounen an desanm si Dieu veut. Sak pate la nou pèdi,
chache la an Desanm. Pouki nou pa fè yo vini pou thanksgiving nan.
Peace
Washington DC, - Wednesday, September 04, 2002 at 22:09:29 (EDT)
We have lots of activities without insurance. But one day there
will be an event where the promoter will be sued. And guess what, he/she
may lose the house the car etc. It only costs couple hundred $$. Promoters
think about it, increase your ticket price by .50c or 1$ to cover the insurance
premium, It will come handy one day.
Mobutoo
- Wednesday, September 04, 2002 at 08:30:04 (EDT)
From what we've been able to gather. The promoters failed to secure
the proper liability insurance for the event. The police disbursed thousands
of people who started to have their own party outside of the park.
EchodHaiti.com < info@echodhaiti.com>
- Tuesday, September 03, 2002 at 20:01:25 (EDT)
what happened to the Haitian Family day Picnic....? I went there
and the park was closed and rumors going around that the promoters never
had a contract to use the park. There were thousands of people there from
out of State it was a whole mess.... Can someone tell me what really happen...
Ecodhaiti can you help find out what happened ?
Machiavel
- Tuesday, September 03, 2002 at 02:50:58 (EDT)
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- Monday, September 02, 2002 at 23:45:58 (EDT)
Thank you for the warm welcome Ncog!!!Does anyone know if there
will be a Haitian Concert here in Hawaii in the near future? Aloha (goodbye)
and mahalo (thank you) to everyone!!! :-)
Cecille
Honolulu, H I - Saturday, August 31, 2002 at 17:50:49 (EDT)
It's nice to know that echodhaiti is full of haters with nothing
better to do with their time than write about people they don't know -hiding
behind computer screens. Atleast now the people on this thing can talk about
an issue with substance because I use to read the messages before and it
was the same talk all the time, going no where. And to all those who forgot-
America is a free country. Everyone has the right to say what they want,
whether you agree with it or not. There is no need to mention anyones' name
but remember "it is better to remain quiet and be thought a fool, then to
speak and remove all doubt." Because most of the people on this board don't
know what they're talking about. But atleast I can say, you have the right
to think a certain way. And to all the people speaking the truth, keep it
up, because you can't go too wrong when you're honest.
TRUTH
- Saturday, August 31, 2002 at 11:53:39 (EDT)
I am part of a group that flies to Haiti. We help the wonderful
people there who unfortunately have been disabled. There are many causes
of their disabilities, but mostly lack of medical skills, hospitals, and
money. We travel each year with a group of Doctors and Staff to help relieve
some of the trauma and pain. We mainly work with those who have lost limbs.
We build new arms
and legs that will help them become more self- sufficient. We help as many
as we can in a weeks period of time. It is very emotional time for all of
us. We want to bring them all home to save them, but we know we can't.
I am writing for your help. Our major cost is the flights over and back.
I am writing asking for your help, to help the young children and adults,
by helping us get there. We know that you understand the tragedy in Haiti,
we could use your help . We will be taking a group of 15-20 doctors and
staff this April 11-18 or 19. If you think you could help us please contact
me at : Marc Urmston
Murmston@taft.k12.ca.us and please visit www.healinghandsforhaiti.org
Thank-you Marc Urmston
< Murmston@taft.k12.ca.us>
California, CA - Saturday, August 31, 2002 at 11:17:21 (EDT)
Haitians in Hawaii???
Sounds perfect. Cecille welcome.
Ncog
Washington, DC - Saturday, August 31, 2002 at 11:01:11 (EDT)
Hello'''again to everybody and thank you for the big welcome!And
thank you to my two brother inlaws Reynold Cantave,Jean Rene Cantave for
taking me to the carnaval,and Zarra Moisse. Aloha!!!!!! Mahalo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cecille
Honolulu, H I - Saturday, August 31, 2002 at 02:05:40 (EDT)
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- Friday, August 30, 2002 at 16:51:19 (EDT)
@Smoochees, yes mom.
yopran'm
- Friday, August 30, 2002 at 12:42:41 (EDT)
Lucky ya'll......Mwen we blan an poko di nou anyen. E a 7h fok mwen
sou rout....ANMWEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Yopranm.....please if you spot me in NY.....Holla ok. Kom se ou ki konnin'm.....LOL
smoochees
- Friday, August 30, 2002 at 11:31:56 (EDT)
Yes TOTO, we're closing early, anmweyyyyyyyyyyyyy 2pm.
lol!
yopran'm
- Friday, August 30, 2002 at 10:48:29 (EDT)
Big welcome for Cecille from Hawaii and for Toto. If Toto is talking
about work, map lagé bonè too.
Mobutoo
- Friday, August 30, 2002 at 09:58:36 (EDT)
What do you mean TOTO? Getting off early from where?
One comment I will make about the WACAHAPA & the Carnival...
As a member, speaking on behalf of WACAHAPA, we did our best to have a successful
Carnival. If anything, we should say BRAVO to WACAHAPA. If it wasn't for
WACAHAPA, we wouldn't have a carnival. Nou pa tap sou Georgia a. Although
we had very little support, to please our community and to represent our
country HAITI, nou fe tout sa nou te kapab pou nou te paret sou georgia.
Think about it....It is a big responsibility that us WACAHAPA took upon
ourselves. No one else would have done it.
Yves Cadelien, kom yon ayisyen tres konu nan komunote an pat sipote mais
li te la pou'l te kritike. Peut etre o lye de kritik la si'l te bay kontribusyon
pa li, it would have made a difference. Map parye ave nou konya la si WACAHAPA
deside pou li pa fe kanaval lot ane, wap tande koze. En nou mete min nou
ensemb, let's all be one tet kole pou nou ka gin yon pi bel kanaval lot
ane.
WACAHAPA BRAVO enko. Because of you I was able to represent my country to
the fullest and I am looking forward to kanaval next year.
BRAVO TO WACAHAPA AND DJ WOOLADO & CREW
smoochees
- Friday, August 30, 2002 at 09:10:11 (EDT)
I heard we are getting off early. Is that true?
TOTO
- Friday, August 30, 2002 at 08:16:26 (EDT)
Tchuippppppppppppp! Enough BS on the board, Can we move on!
XOXO
- Friday, August 30, 2002 at 07:55:29 (EDT)
Reponse a Mr Yves Cadelien
Cher Monsieur
J'ai lu votre article concernant le Carnaval 2002 qui a eu lieu a Washington
D.C l'ete dernier.
Je ne sors pas vraiment. Mais, c'est la quatrieme fois contrairement a vous
que j'ai eu la chance de participer au Carnaval. Malheureusement, vos critiques
n'ont pas eu beaucoup d'importance a mes yeux.
Je ne fais pas partie de Wacahapa. mais, j'ai de mes propres yeux, l'effort
surpasse des membres pour representer Haiti en beaute a cette parade. La
communaute Haitienne comme vous le savez ne contribue pas vraiment a tout
ce qui se fait. Vous le savez vous-meme, puisque vous avez l'habitude d'organiser
des festivites en faveur de votre journal. Mais, la communaute haitienne
ne se presente jamais. Les membres du Wacahapa ont essaye de ramasser des
fonds en organisant toutes sortes de choses tout en essayant de faire plaisir
a la communaute. Ils sont en minorite, ceux qui y participent. Essayez de
comprendre cher Monsieur. Wacahapa ne peut pas tout faire. La communaute
peut faire beaucoup de choses tout en joignant leurs coeurs et leurs poches.
Pourquoi ne pas se joindre a eux la prochaine fois. Comme ca comme on dit
"men kontre, chay pa lou". Le groupe "Kouday" etait venu directement Haiti
representer notre pays a cette parade sous l'invitation de Wacahapa. Il
leur a fallu d'argent, de leur temps et de leur devouement pour realiser
ce reve. Vous dites que quelqu'un etait en train de ramasser de l'argent.
Je peux vous dire qu'ils le font toujours. Ils donnent la chance a ceux
qui n'avaient eu le temps de le faire de contribuer pour payer tous les
frais.
Concernant le son. Vous devez vous dire Wacahapa ne doit pas se sentir responsable.
Ils paient leur argent pour recevoir de bons services. Si cela ne se fait
pas, c'est pas leur faute. Ils savent la prochaine fois, ils devront contacter
une autre compagnie.
La parade commence de Missouri et Georgia Aves et prend fin a Howard University.
Je ne sais pas ou vous vous trouviez. Mais, sachez que les membres du groupe
ne sont pas des bêtes, ils doivent souffler un peu et c'est pour cela qu'il
y a un DJ pour leur remplacer quand ils ont besoin d'un moment de repit.
si vous avez entendu quelque chose autre que le "kompa", je veux vous faire
comprendre que la musique haitienne maintenant est un melange. Il vous faut
ecouter les paroles pour bien juger.
Je crois que j'ai ete assez claire sur certains points. C'est bien de critiquer.
Mais, on ne peut pas passer son temps a juger, il faut aussi mettre la main
pour reussir. Parce que, nous sommes tous des Haitiens.
Un conseil, je crois aussi que vous avez besoin d'ameliorer votre journal.
Faites comme Expose Magasine. Creez, parlez, ecrivez des choses qui peuvent
concernant tout le monde. Mettez un peu de couleur. il faut chercher a egayer
vos fans.
Sincerement,
Rachel (silver spring)
rachel smith < rachelsmith@aol.com>
silver spring, md - Friday, August 30, 2002 at 07:22:05 (EDT)
I love SweetMickey's,Koudjay's,Djakout's and Tubadu's (not sure
of this spelling)music.I wish I can see them again soon in the near future.I
would like know if there's anyway I can find any Hatian records store here
in Hawaii.I feel so lonely not hearing being a lot of Hatian music here
in Hawaii.The last time I had a great time at the Little Haiti 8th annual
Roots & Culture Festival 2002 in Miami, Florida on Saturday May 25th & Sunday
May 26th. I even had the honor of hugging and getting a kiss on the cheek
from Sweet Mickey. I can't wait for another Haitian Concert. By the way,
I'm from the Philippines and I'm married to a very very very handsome man
from Port-au-Prince, Haiti. His name is Steve. Our son's name is John-John.
Cecille
Honolulu, HI - Friday, August 30, 2002 at 04:21:00 (EDT)
good site.. web
designers uk
- Friday, August 30, 2002 at 04:12:43 (EDT)
Oh...! Sa blaan di..? an tou ka mpa konpran' min Dj woolado te vannin...Koujayi....Epi
dat-sit
Ti-bobo
- Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 20:49:08 (EDT)
HAITIAN PARTICIPATION IN THE DC CARNIVAL: MIXED FEELINGS
If it were not for the good état d'esprit of the many Haitian supporters
and patriots, one would have been short of positive remarks to make regarding
the Haitian participation at the Washington DC Carnival to say the least.
As we may all know, the last Saturday of the Month of June marked the 10th
annual of the Washington DC Carnival. On that occasion, scores of Haitians
converged along Georgia Avenue to support the Haitian representation and
to loose themselves up.
I did not have a chance to go to the carnival last year. And, according
to rumors the Haitian participation was a little bit better than the preceding
years. This was greatly due to the acquiring of a better sound system.
In any event, I made it a point to join the parade this year since there
was so much fanfare regarding the Haitian participation. It appeared that
the committee in charge of the preparation for the Haitian participation
was for real. The committee was going to go all azimuths in order to make
the Haitian presence at the parade a very special and memorable one. In
that perspective, it called upon Koudjay, a very popular and one of the
best Racine groups in Haiti, to perform for the circumstance.
As a big fan of Racine music and Koudjay in particular, I was elated at
the idea and even anticipated a very animated performance by the group.
I was shocked to witness a pitiful performance by the group. However, knowing
that Koudjay always rises to the occasion, I found it sort of bizarre and
unfortunate that it played at a level below its potential.
At first, when I stumbled against the Haitian float, I did not realize Koudjay
was on it. Nothing indicated it was so. Moreover, a reggae CD was playing.
My brother-in law who accompanied me inquired: "where is Koudjay? I tought
they said that Koudjay was going to perform." I replied: "maybe it is on
another float." But after taking a good look, I recognized the lead singer
and pointed him out to my in-law and said: "it's indeed Koudjay."
To make matters worse, Koudjay did not play most of the parade's itinerary.
Apparently, it was not in a good mood to play. And, when it finally did,
the sounds left a lot to be desired. One woman who was so upset about the
whole situation shouted literally: "Those Haitians always come here to pull
down their pants." When no improvement in sonority was noticed, another
one added: "Is this what they call Koudjay?"
In addition, the Haitian participation was tainted with some controversy.
There seemed to be a problem with the band members and the committee. A
member was constantly requesting for money along the itinerary while others
attempted desperately to collect money from supporters whom they claimed
were yet to give their financial support.
Despite all the disenchantment, the Haitian supporters, some dressed in
red and blue, others wrapped in Haitian flags, and some others carried small
flags in their hands, did not get discouraged, they still managed to have
an excellent time. In a good show of solidarity, they remained with the
float all along the itinerary. They were a joyous bunch: they danced, jumped,
and really got a very good time. Haitians flags were waving high and things
got more heated up when the float reached Dr. Pouyes' office where DJ Woodlado
was animating.
The committee might have had the good will to have a beautiful representation
but the many technical deficiencies underscored a lack of planning. In order
to have a worthy participation at the Carnival, the committee needs to plan
it yearlong. It is imperative to hire professionals to decorate the float
and build a good structure to set up the instruments and equipments. It
is equally important to have a professional sound engineer to calibrate
and tune up the equipments, so as to have the best of sounds as possible.
By doing so, the Haitian participation will be successful. With that in
mind and until then, I say: Good luck!
Yves cadélien
Trait d'Union < ctu2000@hotmail.com>
- Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 19:10:21 (EDT)
A noter que WACAHAPA a droit de réponse dans les pages du prochain
numéro de Trait d'Union Magazine.
Trait d'Union
md - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 19:07:07 (EDT)
We, the members of the "Collectif Trait d'Union", found it appropriate
to publish in its entirety the article on "Haitian Participation in the
DC Carnival, Mixed Feelings". The following article stirred lots of emotions
as evidenced by comments written here on echod'haiti guests' book.
By posting the entire article on this forum, we hope to provide those who
did not read Mr Yves Cadelien's article with insight that will help them
determine the fairness (or lack of) of his review.
HAITIAN PARTICIPATION IN THE DC CARNIVAL: MIXED FEELINGS
If it were not for the good état d'esprit of the many Haitian supporters
and patriots, one would have been short of positive remarks to make regarding
the Haitian participation at the Washington DC Carnival to say the least.
As we may all know, the last Saturday of the Month of June marked the 10th
annual of the Washington DC Carnival. On that occasion, scores of Haitians
converged along Georgia Avenue to support the Haitian representation and
to loose themselves up.
I did not have a chance to go to the carnival last year. And, according
to rumors the Haitian participation was a little bit better than the preceding
years. This was greatly due to the acquiring of a better sound system.
In any event, I made it a point to join the parade this year since there
was so much fanfare regarding the Haitian participation. It appeared that
the committee in charge of the preparation for the Haitian participation
was for real. The committee was going to go all azimuths in order to make
the Haitian presence at the parade a very special and memorable one. In
that perspective, it called upon Koudjay, a very popular and one of the
best Racine groups in Haiti, to perform for the circumstance.
As a big fan of Racine music and Koudjay in particular, I was elated at
the idea and even anticipated a very animated performance by the group.
I was shocked to witness a pitiful performance by the group. However, knowing
that Koudjay always rises to the occasion, I found it sort of bizarre and
unfortunate that it played at a level below its potential.
At first, when I stumbled against the Haitian float, I did not realize Koudjay
was on it. Nothing indicated it was so. Moreover, a reggae CD was playing.
My brother-in law who accompanied me inquired: "where is Koudjay? I tought
they said that Koudjay was going to perform." I replied: "maybe it is on
another float." But after taking a good look, I recognized the lead singer
and pointed him out to my in-law and said: "it's indeed Koudjay."
To make matters worse, Koudjay did not play most of the parade's itinerary.
Apparently, it was not in a good mood to play. And, when it finally did,
the sounds left a lot to be desired. One woman who was so upset about the
whole situation shouted literally: "Those Haitians always come here to pull
down their pants." When no improvement in sonority was noticed, another
one added: "Is this what they call Koudjay?"
In addition, the Haitian participation was tainted with some controversy.
There seemed to be a problem with the band members and the committee. A
member was constantly requesting for money along the itinerary while others
attempted desperately to collect money from supporters whom they claimed
were yet to give their financial support.
Despite all the disenchantment, the Haitian supporters, some dressed in
red and blue, others wrapped in Haitian flags, and some others carried small
flags in their hands, did not get discouraged, they still managed to have
an excellent time. In a good show of solidarity, they remained with the
float all along the itinerary. They were a joyous bunch: they danced, jumped,
and really got a very good time. Haitians flags were waving high and things
got more heated up when the float reached Dr. Pouyes' office where DJ Woodlado
was animating.
The committee might have had the good will to have a beautiful representation
but the many technical deficiencies underscored a lack of planning. In order
to have a worthy participation at the Carnival, the committee needs to plan
it yearlong. It is imperative to hire professionals to decorate the float
and build a good structure to set up the instruments and equipments. It
is equally important to have a professional sound engineer to calibrate
and tune up the equipments, so as to have the best of sounds as possible.
By doing so, the Haitian participation will be successful. With that in
mind and until then, I say: Good luck!
Yves cadélien
Trait d'Union
md - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 19:01:37 (EDT)
We, the members of the "Collectif Trait d'Union", found it appropriate
to publish in its entirety the article on "Haitian Participation in the
DC Carnival, Mixed Feelings". The following article stirred lots of emotions
as evidenced by comments written here on echod'haiti guests' book.
By posting the entire article on this forum, we hope to provide those who
did not read Mr Yves Cadelien's article with insight that will help them
determine the fairness (or lack of) of his review.
Collectif Trait d'Union
md - Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 19:00:07 (EDT)
Bon....moun washington DC yo pap desan NY pou labor day a? Mwen
pa tande peson fe komante sou sa. A pa de yopranm ave'm. OO!!! Rete.....Gadon
Koz.
En tou kA mwen minm nan depi demain soir mwen NY. Sak vle ale swiv mwen.
Bo icit la pa gin pwogram. Se chak un ans yo ba'w yon ti bagay.
Min pwogram pou weekend labor day nan NY:
Thursday night----_ZIN
Friday night------Micky @SOB's
Saturday----T-Vice & Zin.....Carimi & Konpa Kreole @Club A
Saturday-----Haitian Day picnic with Micky/Top Vice/System and many more
Sunday-----Konpafest2 with T-vice/carimi/zenglen/ny all stars and many more
Monday------Eastern parkway
Le fini tou pa blye Juve sunday night. Chaje ak lot pwogram ke'm pa site
la. Alors mesye dame bat dada nou tande. Menyen souke ko nou nan washington
DC a. Nap fe jiska se ke nou gran moun pa fos. O
smoochees
- Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 10:44:02 (EDT)
Thanks Simone....se yon moun konsa ke'm ye.....VERY COOL!!!
smoochees
- Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 15:18:40 (EDT)
Ayibobo, I 'm so disappointed . SHAME SHAME SHAME on you .
We foot please come back,you are the one who really shed some lights here
on this broad.I miss you .Every day at this time I check the broad out just
to read you. I miss your oui fout papa ,oui fout manman,and your an mweeeeeey.
smooches ,yap atake'w but keep your cool,keep making sense you are at your
best when you're cool.
Gwo Simone
rockville, md - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 13:10:58 (EDT)
Ayibobo, I 'm so disappointed . SHAME SHAME SHAME on you .
We foot please come back,you are the one who really shed some lights here
on this broad.I miss you .Every day at this time I check the broad out just
to read you. I miss your
smooches ,yap atake'w but keep your cool,keep making sense you are at your
best when you're cool.
Gwo Simone
rockville, md - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 13:09:59 (EDT)
Rachelle sispan mete fatra sou panneau tampri....! Kite Yves pale
toujou..... msi misie gin lot bagayi poul di nou..
Ti-bobo
- Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 11:52:21 (EDT)
Rachelle sispan mete fatra sou panneau tampri....! Kite Yves pale
toujou..... msi misie gin lot bagayi poul di nou..
Ti-bobo
- Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 11:52:21 (EDT)
Bonjour mes Amis!
Les Amazones de Titid
> >
> > Décidemment ce Titid essaie toujours d'imiter sans succès d'autres
> > leaders.
> > Pâle copie de Duvalier Père, voilà qu'il retient l'exemple de son ami
> > libyen Kaddafi
> > qui avait des gardes de corps féminins. En effet, un
> > groupe de femmes évoluant autour du Président s'est dénommé: "Les
> > Amazones".
> >
> > Pour faire partie du groupe il faut:
> > 1) être de "bonne souche", ce qui écarte les Hermione et autres
> > filles de
> > SOYète.
> > 2) être très, très expérimentée.
> > 3) avoir de solides liens dans les milieux d'affaires
> >
> > Leur rôle est de constituer des cloisons étanches qui barrent la
> > route à tous ceux ou toutes celles qui voudraient approcher de trop
près
> > le couple présidentiel. Ces courtisanes consommées font de tout: sécurité,
> >
> > délations, tripotage", affaires d'argent, pots de vin et n'hésitent
> > surtout
> > pas à se donner en spectacles lascifs.
> >
> > Joëlle Appolon Hudicourt, cousine par alliance de Lilas
> > Desquiron, petite amie de Jean Claude Duvalier après avoir été couronnée
> > Miss
> > Prestige.
> > Yvrose Green qui a promené ses jupes sur tous les champs de
> > bataille, de l'Europe à l'Amérique Latine. Du Général Abraham dont elle
> > fut
> > l'amie intime en passant par le Général Biamby, elle termina, il n'y
a pas
> >
> > longtemps, jouant le rôle d'animatrice des distractions particulières
de
> > Fourel Célestin.
> > La fille de Serge Gaston, cette sans-vergogne, effaçant de sa mémoire
son
> > père,
> > s'est jointe au groupe. Sergo Gaston fut décapité et brûle par les hordes
> > lavalassiennes
> > le 7 janvier 1991.
> > Jessie Deverson, l'oeil vigilant, ne laisse passer aucun business juteux.
> > Fedorah Camille Chevry, cousine de Mildred et cousine par
> > alliance des Deeb, fut aussi la bonne amie de Jean Claude Duvalier.
> > Rosie Lelong, soeur de Pierre Lelong, ambassadeur d'Haïti au
> > Méxique fut la petite amie de Préval qui se fit accompagner d'elle à
> > Governers
> > Island. En plus d'être nommée récemment courtisane officielle, elle
a
> > aussi
> > un autre rôle extrêmement important dans le groupe. Elle contrôle pour
> > Titid sa très, très bonne amie Ingrid Roy Romeo Cuevas qui contrôle
à son
> > tour
> > son mari, Sergio Romeo Cuevas, représentant de l'OEA. Et la boucle est
> > bouclée.
> > Ces femmes n'ont certainement pas fait très attention au
> > dictionnaire en choisissant le nom de leur groupe. En plus de la
> > connotation de
> > "guerrière" du terme "Amazone", le Larousse ajoute qu'une amazone est
> > aussi
> > une prostituée en voiture".
> >
Rachelle
Towson, MD - Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 09:50:44 (EDT)
RACHELLE -DON'T GET ME WRONG I JUST WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING FUNNY
-THAT MA "DIVINE AISE" JOKE IS NOT DIRECTED TO YOU OR ANYONE ELSE ON THE
BROAD.I ONLY FEEL THAT IT WAS A GOOD FOLLOW UP TO YOUR JOKE--- J'AIME BEAUCOUP
LE DICTIONNAIRE DU COUPLE QUE TU VIENS D'ECRIRE.
CREQUE
SILVER SPRING, MD - Tuesday, August 27, 2002 at 17:46:27 (EDT)
RACHELLE -DON'T GET ME WRONG I JUST WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING FUNNY
-THAT MA "DIVINE AISE" JOKE IS NOT DIRECTED TO YOU OR ANYONE ELSE ON THE
BROAD.I ONLY FEEL THAT IT WAS A GOOD FOLLOW UP TO YOUR JOKE--- J'AIME BEAUCOUP
LE DICTIONNAIRE DU COUPLE QUE TU VIENS D'ECRIRE.
CREQUE
SILVER SPRING, MD - Tuesday, August 27, 2002 at 17:45:48 (EDT)
RACHELLE -DON'T GET ME WRONG I JUST WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING FUNNY
-THAT MA "DIVINE AISE" JOKE IS NOT DIRECTED TO YOU OR ANYONE ELSE ON THE
BROAD.I ONLY FEEL THAT IT WAS A GOOD FOLLOW UP TO YOUR JOKE---- J'AIME BEAUCOUP
LE DICTIONNAIRE DU COUPLE QUE TU VIENS D'ECRIRE.
CREQUE
SILVER SPRING, MD - Tuesday, August 27, 2002 at 17:44:37 (EDT)
RACHELLE -DON'T GET ME WRONG I JUST WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING FUNNY
-THAT MA "DIVINE AISE" JOKE IS NOT DIRECTED TO YOU OR ANYONE ELSE ON THE
BROAD.I ONLY FEEL THAT IT WAS A GOOD FOLLOW UP TO YOUR JOKE---- J'AIME BEAUCOUP
LE DICTIONNAIRE DU COUPLE QUE TU VIENS D'ECRIRE
CREQUE
SILVER SPRING, MD - Tuesday, August 27, 2002 at 17:44:12 (EDT)
RACHELLE -DON'T GET ME WRONG I JUST WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING FUNNY
-THAT MA "DIVINE AISE" JOKE IS NOT DIRECTED TO YOU OR ANYONE ELSE ON THE
BROAD.I ONLY FEEL THAT IT WAS A GOOD FOLLOW UP TO YOUR JOKE---- J'AIME BEAUCOUP
LE DICTIONNAIRE DU COUPLE QUE TU VIENS D'ECRIRE LOL
CREQUE
SILVER SPRING, MD - Tuesday, August 27, 2002 at 17:42:54 (EDT)
AND RACHELLE, LET ME TELL YOU WHAT DO I CALL AN HAITIAN LESBIAN
" MA DIVINE AISE".
creque
silver spring, md - Tuesday, August 27, 2002 at 17:33:03 (EDT)
AND RACHELLE LET ME TELL YOU WHAT DO I CALL AN HAITIAN LESBIAN "
MA DIVINE AISE"
creque
silver spring, md - Tuesday, August 27, 2002 at 17:32:33 (EDT)
LE DICTIONNAIRE DU COUPLE
Dictionnaire Femme/Français:
Oui = non
Non = oui
Peut-être = non
Je suis désolée = tu vas le regretter
J'aurais besoin = je veux
C'est ta décision = tu te trompes
Fais ce que tu veux = tu vas payer pour ça plus tard
Je voudrais te parler = je veux me plaindre
D'accord, vas-y = je ne veux pas que tu le fasses
Je ne suis pas fâchée = bien sûr que je suis fâchée
T'es viril = ta barbe est trop longue et puis tu transpires trop
Sois romantique, éteins les lumières = j'me trouve grosse, j'veux pas que
tu me voies
Cette cuisine n'est pas très pratique = je veux une nouvelle maison
Je voudrais de nouveaux rideaux = ...et un nouveau tapis et des meubles...
J'ai entendu un bruit = j'ai vu que tu étais presque endormi
M'aimes-tu ? = j'ai quelque chose à te demander qui va coûter cher
M'aimes-tu beaucoup ? = j'ai fait quelque chose que tu ne vas pas aimer
Je suis prête dans une minute = enlève tes souliers, assieds-toi et
regarde la télé
Il faut que tu apprennes à communiquer = il faut que tu apprennes à être
d'accord avec ce que je dis.
Dictionnaire Homme/Français :
Oui = Oui
Non = Non
J'ai faim = j'ai faim
Je suis fatigué = je suis fatigué
Veux-tu aller au cinéma ? = je voudrais baiser après
Veux-tu souper au resto ? = on pourra baiser après
Veux-tu danser ? = après on pourra baiser
T'as une belle robe = t'as un beau décolleté... si on baisait
T'as l'air tendue, veux-tu un massage ? = On va baiser, ça te fera du bien
Qu'est-ce que t'as ? = j'imagine qu'on ne baisera pas ce soir
C'est pas terrible à la télé... = on baise ?
Je t'aime = on baise ?
Moi aussi je t'aime = bon, t'es contente ? Est-ce qu'on peut baiser
maintenant ?!
Ça te va bien ta nouvelle coupe de cheveux = j'aimais mieux avant
Il faut qu'on se parle = je vais te montrer que je peux être un homme
attentif... on baise après ?
Rachelle
- Tuesday, August 27, 2002 at 17:13:46 (EDT)
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the corporate states of America
and to
>the profit margin for which they stand one nation under greed, above
>everything else,
>>with liberty and justice for those who can afford it.
>
>>Q. What do you call a Chinese homosexual?
>>A. Chew-man-chew
>>
>Q. What do you call a Jewish homosexual?
>A. He Blew
>
Rachelle
Towson, MD - Tuesday, August 27, 2002 at 17:07:33 (EDT)
E avek ou min-m tou.
peace
intel
Dorcester County, MD - Tuesday, August 27, 2002 at 17:06:15 (EDT)
La paix bondie avek nou..
xoxo
- Tuesday, August 27, 2002 at 15:37:57 (EDT)
Tibobo, I know that it is hard to face the truth. It hurts. See
you are calling me Yves. So you think that you can make me upset. No I feel
pity for you. It is Folks like you who have given haitians a bad name. Look
at your macoutic mentality: "what I said, I said it and that is it". I could
have told you more but one day you will come up with your senses and will
declare that Ayibobo was right.
Ayibobo
Ayibobo
Hyattsville, MD - Tuesday, August 27, 2002 at 14:43:37 (EDT)
Yves monche... anou kite sa la.... gade vie bagayi led wap vin fe
sou board ti misie yo laaa-a .... Ou pa bezwin defan' tet ou anko. Sam'
tap di ya mdi'l epi that's it.
T-bobo
- Tuesday, August 27, 2002 at 14:24:40 (EDT)
Tibobo, I am trying to put some sense out of you, but it seems that
it is a losing battle. It is not because you call Yves Dayiti ti vagabon
abiye for me to agree with you. You have to tell me exactly what he has
done to you that has made you think of him that way: has he promised wedding
to your sister and did not do it? has he stolen your money? etc. You may
have had a bad encounter with Yves but that does not mean that everyone
has to be on your side. we do not even have the facts. Look, right here
on this board we cannot agree and then we are blaming one person for putting
division in our community. Come on man, I thought that you have left Portail
Leogane behind. You have to do better than that.
Ayibobo
Ayibobo
Hyattsville, MD - Tuesday, August 27, 2002 at 13:00:24 (EDT)
Mobutoo....mwen konpran ou cheri....LOL
Ki moun ki pral sou parkway a?
smoochees
- Tuesday, August 27, 2002 at 12:42:22 (EDT)
Map swiv.....retire'm nan koze'w. Obviously, ou ka we sa, se pa
mwen ki gin ak who ever is paginchans. Se li ki atake'm. Mwen pa fe ni de
ni twa, mwen ignore li. Mwen pa kon moun nan, so pour te dire franchement,
mwen pa ka nan match avek li ni mwen pat ka fouti nan boxe ave'l paske moun
nan se yon lache. Li kache deye yon fo nom pou lap voye monte sou mwen.
Sak pi red la sa ta di si moun nan se yon gason. ANMWEYYYYYYYYYY!!!
An nou kite koze sa la tande. I don't want to reveye le chat qui dort.....LOL
smoochees
- Tuesday, August 27, 2002 at 12:40:33 (EDT)
Tanpri ki es ki ka di-m le Celebrity Boxing match ka fet. Moun pa
ka tan-n.
Amweyyyy....nap toue-m oui sou board sa-a. Ala nou min-m sa-aaaaa.
Vierge
Bel Air, Md - Tuesday, August 27, 2002 at 11:56:57 (EDT)
Se le dife pran nan ri Sin-Matin ou kon' Konbye kokobek' gin la......Ayibobo
estomake pou Yves .....hmmmm!
Tibobo
- Tuesday, August 27, 2002 at 11:18:06 (EDT)
Smoochees, there was a typo in my writing. What Ayibobo wrote was
that "if he was young li ta mandé fè youn ti cou tou" You don't have to
say anything for ayibobo to attack you. And it is a matter of time before
you or whoever else crosses his way will get his/her life posted on this
board. Apparently I see that this is the norm with ayibobo and wefoot and
I think it was "paginchas" who made private comments about you which I don't
think we cared to know. At least I didn't. This board used to talk about
parties events Haiti etc. but now it is open season to private lives. Hopefully
we will ignore future comments of that nature.
Mobutoo
- Tuesday, August 27, 2002 at 10:44:54 (EDT)
ECHODHAITI CELEBRITY BOXING: Ayibobo vs. Machiavel, We foot vs.
Moboutoo, paginchans vs. smoochees, and romeo vs. juliette.
map swiv
- Tuesday, August 27, 2002 at 10:39:02 (EDT)
Machiavel, me joining the Board has given you a lot of problems.
First let me tell you that I am not Yves Dayiti. I am a retired haitian
who has been living in this area and working for an international organization
here in DC. Second, from your writings, it seems to me that you are obsessed
with Yves Dayiti. I can do your psychological profile. I agree with Smoochees
when she said that Haitians like to badmouth other haitians (pale mal, bay
kout lang). I am curious, Yves Dayiyi said that there are 2 haitians in
this area that anytime that there is a management change at the radio station,
they came to look for a radio program. I have a fuzzy feeling that you are
one of them. Correct me if I am wrong. Some people are jealous of others,
some people think that they can do a better job than others, but they also
think that in order for them to reach their goal, they have to destroy the
other one. Some others see radio as a way to become a star or to go above
their inferior complex. Otherwise, they are nothing and they have to prove
that they are somebody. Well Machiavel, if you want to be somebody, go to
school and learn something. I bet you don't have a degree or nothing compared
to that. Machiavel, I do not think that you have spent a dime to put and
maintain this board, you cannot dare decide on who should stay and who should
not stay or trying to identify people. I do not want to personalize the
issues but I think you needed to be reminded of this. I discussed the issues
with Wefoot and I think she understands and this is what makes a human being
great. I can post here as well as anyone in the community or anywhere else.
and I will continue to post. Machiavel, it is time for you to grow up. Do
not continue to be a Mama kid at your age (Whatever age you are). If you
have an issue with Yves, go talk to the man like a man. But me, Ayibobo,
you will always hear from me. the board has become one of my hobbies and
I am enjoying every minute of it.
Ayibobo
Ayibobo
Hyattsville, MD - Tuesday, August 27, 2002 at 10:28:40 (EDT)
This is my first time posting. An tou ka depi le map li board se
le Ayibobo mete vi prive Jean Zephir sou li.... li mete vi prive Harold
Joseph..li pale anpil lot neg mal sou board.... mte konpran' se te pouli
board la te ye.....min le msie komanse pale de Yves Dhaiti ke li rankontre
kay Ti-Claud...epi li gintan kon' tout vi Yves, edikasyion li, min non selman
sa....li konin nan ki lopital Yves fet e min' kikote nan lakou lopital la.
Oooooh mezanmi....nou paka kite Yves ap vin' blow mind nou la-aaa..... Yves
la se yon vakanbon Abiye....pou depi dat Yves nan Radio saa-a la vejete
voye fle epi lap vin' laa-a tou..... ....monche m'dako ak Romeo wi....Ayibobo=Yves....
kite ti moun yo evolie kominote ya......OU TROP GRANMOUN POU AP VIN' FE
VIE BAGAY SO YO LAA-AAA.....
T-bobo
- Tuesday, August 27, 2002 at 09:52:58 (EDT)
Haitian = no class
ayiti_rr
- Tuesday, August 27, 2002 at 09:41:52 (EDT)
Aybobo.....LOL.....Nou pap okipe moun kap pale sa yo pa konnin.
Like I said tout o tan yap met pou mwen se dada'm kap vin pi gras. Sak konnin'm
yo pale pou mwen non. Di yo ki laje dada'm. Kontinye mete....afe'm kap regle.
smoochees
- Tuesday, August 27, 2002 at 09:40:01 (EDT)
Mobutoo....."So He has not attacked Smooches because like he said
he would youn ti cou tou".....translate for me dear. Mwen pa konpran. What
exactly are you trying to say? Nan kisa wap vin foure'm la? Why should he
attack me? I don't know the man and he does not know me? Therefore, he has
no reason to attack me. Dailleur ou we jenm pale sou board la. Mwen pa offend
peson ni pale sa'm pa konnin. Se si'm te atake neg la nan yon negative way,
then mwen ta konpran si'l ta atake'm tou. Ou pa we mwen fe respe'm sou board
la. Se konsa ayisyen bay moun kout lang lan wi.... nan atake moun yo pa
konnin. Le konsa se pawol yo invente sou ou.
We foot.....there's no reason for you to leave the board. Why should you?
We are all here to express our feelings and opinions. Kote nou fe ere a,
we take it personal and make false comments on people. Yo rele sa ZIN. Se
pa sa nou vin fe sou board la. What really gets me with all this that I
am reading, se le yo rentre nan vi prive moun nan. We don't need to know
all that. Ke moun nan marye, ke moun nan gin pitit, ke li ap travay ou pa.
That's too much INFO. If we are criticizing an individual, let's keep all
comments on that individual. Nou pa bezwen rentre jis nan vi prive'l. Same
thing goes if we are criticizing an event/the community/program etc....let's
keep it clean. Nou pa bezwen ap vin di ki moun ki te la, kiles ki pat la,
koman intel te abiye, ak ki neg/fanm intel te ye. Bagay konsa pa regade
nou. I always believed moun ki pale moun mal, kap bay moun kout langue,
se yon sot de jalouzi yo ginyin lakay yo. Moun nan we wap minnin wap fe
e li minm nan lap trinnin, li pap jen kontan pou ou. Lap toujou chache yon
jen pou li detrui'w.
Anyway, what I am really trying to say here....Let's avoid all this. It
is not worth it. We are here to have fun, to discuss our views and to share
our opinions. Thanks to Jean Michel, Ginau & crew, we have a board where
we can come and relax, learn our culture, and know what's going on in the
DC area (as far as events etc). We do not want to loose that. As many of
you can tell, I've been here for the longest. As a matter of fact I think
I am the oldest person in here. A moins ke nou sou fo nom. I really enjoyed
the board. Many times I tried to stay away, mwen pa kapab. E se pa yon a
rien afe ke'm ye non. I am a very bz woman. Moun ki vraiment konnin'm yo
can testify to that. Se pa tan mwen ginyin konsa pou'm ap gaspiye. Sometimes
mwen kon fe yon semaine mwen pa monte sou board la telmen mwen bz. Alors,
I want to see all of us get along. Let's all be one.
We foot....babe, you are more than welcome here. There's no need for you
to leave us. Whatever went on in here that perhaps got you upset, take it
as an experience. Konya la wa kon kouman pou pale sou board la. Try to keep
everything straight forward. Pa penche sou kote babe. Last, please don't
take anything personal.
Bon male!!!
smoochees
- Tuesday, August 27, 2002 at 09:36:08 (EDT)
Now I am not quite sure what happened to the rest of my notes, however
I did list the reasons why ( AYIBOBO=YVES DHAITI) said all those negative
things about all these guys....I don't have time write now to rewrite it
(map bay blan-n le) but when I have time I will repost it. For some reason
Ayibobo seem to thing he is the voice of reason yet he preaches hate and
division. As for the reason he hates all these men and has attacked everyone
of them well I am sure if we talked to them we would find he had some beef
with them in the past. Now that he has found this board ( lap kache nan
fe nwa poul voye roch ).... Ayibbobo give it up .
Machiavel
- Tuesday, August 27, 2002 at 08:50:38 (EDT)
Pou program papa piè, it was advertised as a family program, therefore
ti-moun & granmoun. Yes li pat doué pran micro nan min papa piè min sa ayibobo
pap di, it that he went to the organizer and asked that something is done
because there were lots of kids in the auditorium. And where does ayibobo
join istwa ke Yves Cadelien talks the same way toward his family. That is
not true. I know the man and his family. Even if that was true, what does
he gain by saying something like that. If it not Harold Joseph, it's Jean
Zephyr, then Jean Michel now Yves & trait Union. Ayibobo always has a negative
comment about everyone. So He has not attacked Smooches because like he
said he would youn ti cou tou. Since Wefoot said he/she is not coming to
the "broad" anymore there is no need to bring her negativity back.
Mobutoo
- Tuesday, August 27, 2002 at 08:30:11 (EDT)
Hello Romeo! Ou mimn sa-a se sa net.
Juliette
8/26/02, dc - Monday, August 26, 2002 at 22:49:53 (EDT)
Machiavel ......hmmmm!! You're a wise man.... I think you've hit
a bullseye.....I had no Idea Jean Zephir dropped him with a left hook....hahhahahaah.
Now I need to go back and read every post Ayibobo wrote......Apa li papa
!!!
Romeo
- Monday, August 26, 2002 at 22:07:59 (EDT)
Honor and Respect,
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yell, "honor," and the owner would respond, "respect."
With that in mind, we welcome you with respect to EchodHaiti.com's board.
We ask that you honor yourself and your culture with your comments. We accept,
freely, all comments and criticisms, but we reserve the right to edit or
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Thank you Webmaster < webmaster@echodhaiti.com>
Haitian Community, DC area - Monday, August 26, 2002 at 22:02:11 (EDT)
AYIBOBO, OU k* OUI LA,---JODI YA OU VOYE K* NETTE---OU SALE KANSON'W
NETTE.---IF YOU GO BACK TO YOUR COMMENTS OF AUGUST 23,YOU SAID THAT YOU
HAD THE CHANCE TO MEET AND CHAT WITH YVES DAYITI @ TI CLAUDE COIFFEUR, BUT
TODAY, YOU SHOW THAT YOU CAN WRITE HIS BIOGRAPHY. -OR YOUR AUTOBIOGRAPHY--SA
KAP PASSE LA. ---KOMINOTE YA EDE'M RELE NON---MACHIAVEL MAY BE RIGHT --YOU
ARE EITHER YVES DAYITI OR ONE OF HIS SOUFFLE LAN TCHOU.--- OUI FOUT PAPA--
LET ME FINISH BY SAYING THAT I LIKE TO BE FAIR,THEREFORE I LIKE TO SAY THAT
RECENTLY THERE HAVE BEEN SOME IMPROVEMENTS IN THE CONTENT OF HIS PROGRAM.
I REALLY HOPE THAT HE CAN KEEP IT THAT WAY FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR SMALL,
BUT DIVIDED COMMUNITY.----PEACE BE WITH YOU AND TO ALL THE OTHERS ON THE
BROAD.--- THAT'S IT FOR ME --NO MORE WE FOOT ON THE BROAD. --ADIEU MES AMIS
--ADIEU MES FRERES.
WE FOOT
SILVER SPRING, MD - Monday, August 26, 2002 at 21:16:46 (EDT)
Okay....!!! Now that I have read all this Yves D'Haiti camaign rethoric,
let me just ask Ayibobo to put the mirror down..The Story that you've talked
to Yves at Ti-Claude's house is hogwash. Yeah you met him when Ti-Claude
gave you the mirror to ck out achitectural marvel that he had created in
your head.... You're not fooling anybody ( AYIBOBO = YVES D'HAITI ) . That
is my strong suspision.... {{MESSAGE EDITED - WEBMASTER}}
Machiavel
- Monday, August 26, 2002 at 19:44:09 (EDT)
Wefoot, I was getting too long and I had to stop. I am not trying
to defend Yves Dayiti or be apologetic for him. But I have a lot of problems
with the way you have expressed your opinion on the man. As a radio person
in a community, he has the right to talk about things that are happening,
have happened and will happen. Remember last time the System Band party
went wrong, he went on the air and criticized his friend Tony in a constructive
manner. This is what I am talking about. How many of us would have done
that? You know very well that haitians cannot accept criticisms. The same
way many times I heard from my fellow haitians: "Fam nan se fam mwen, mwen
gin dwa bat li. e pi mwen bat li, mwen bat li net". This is wrong. We have
to grow and to change. On that note, Yves Dayiti has been doing an excellent
job. I discussed with him and we argued. He respected my opinion and I respected
his. We had mutual respect for one another. We lack that in our community.
He should continue to criticize so that we learn from our mistakes and move
forward.
Ayibobo
Ayibobo
Hyattsville, MD - Monday, August 26, 2002 at 17:18:01 (EDT)
WeFoot, I am not new here in this area. I have been living here
for a very long time. I know a lot of people here and it is by far a very
small community. When things happened in this area, people talk about it
and people learn of it. It seems to me that when you think you know someone,
it could be the contrary. even though I had the opportunity to sit down
and chat with Yves Dayiti, I have had over the years many opportunities
to listen to the man on Saturday night. You said many things that I have
to take issue with. First of all, it is one of the legacy of the Duvalier
era. If soemone is one family had close ties or was working for the regime,
that does not mean that all members of the family were partisans of the
regime and must share the blame. It is according to you that if a member
of a family is a thief, you are going to call everyone in the family a thief.
You are dead wrong. When the incident happened with his brother, he went
on the air and talked about it. You have to have a lot of courage to say
that publicly. Yet Yves Dayiti did it. I have to respect him for this. Many
other people in this area when bad things happened to a member of their
family, they kept quiet.Let me give you an example, I know of one person
who has a program, his brother died of AIDS. He never mentioned it on his
program. He could have used the opportunity to educate others about the
desease. Second, you said Yves Dayiti is from Jacmel. You are dead wrong.
His father is from Jacmel and his mom is from Cuba but he was born in Port-au-Prince
in the yard of the State Univerity Hospital in front of the Statue of the
Virgin Marie. (he always said that). He has said that many times on the
air. He even said that he still has relatives in Cuba that he would like
to go see them. Next, we have to teach our kids the value of education.
You, wefoot, what types of educational level you have achieved so that you
can set example for your kid? The man came here without parents and have
achieved all of that. We should take pride in that. He did not do drugs,
He did not steal. You have never heard his name associated with bad things.
Instead you said he has a wife and a son. Is that bad or good? you tell
me Wefoot? Let me also remind you that he has a microphone and it is his
biggest weapon. He has to use it and if he was not using it properly, he
would not have had the opportunity to still be on the air. If it was me
or you, you would have used it too. Look at Trait D'union, ain't they using
the newspaper to express their views? He is doing the same thing, so what
is wrong with that?. Everyone has a good side and a bad side. Yves Dayiti
left me an impression of someone who is straightforward. Many people have
confirmed that. He does not take BS from no one. I respect that. If you
have run across his bad side, too bad. Go back and learn to appreciate his
good side.
It seems to me that wefoot, you have a lot to learn.
Ayibobo
Ayibobo
Hyattsville , MD - Monday, August 26, 2002 at 16:35:20 (EDT)
AYIBOBO I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU ,YOU SOUND LIKE YOU HAVE NO BABAN'N.
I REALLY LIKE TO READ YOU ON THE BROAD,REMEMBER I'VE BEEN READING FOR A
LONG TIME ,I SIMPLY STARTED TO WRITE RECENTLY.
WITH REGARD TO YOUR RESPOND ABOUT YVES DAYITI ,YOU SAID THAT YOU MET THE
GUY @ TI CLAUDE'S PLACE,AND THAT WAS YOUR ONLY CHANCE TO INTERACT WITH HIM,THAT'S
FINE.LET ME TELL YOU THAT I, MY SELF, KNOW THE MAN VERY WELL AND MAKE NO
MISTAKE THAT YVES DAYITI'S REAL NAME IS YVES POINT DU JOUR . HE CAN BE BOTH
AN ANGEL & A DEVIL .HE IS FROM JACMEL ,HE IS MARRIED TO A LADY FROM JEREMI
NAME {{MESSAGE EDITED-WEBMASTER}},AND HAS A SON NAME {{MESSAGE EDITED-WEBMASTER}}.HE
IS THE BROTHER OF "AGIMAL" NOT THE ONE HERE ON T.V, BUT A GENDARME {{MESSAGE
EDITED-WEBMASTER}}.---I SAID AGAIN MAKE NO MISTAKE YVES' WEAPON IN THE WASHINGTON
AREA IS HIS MICROPHONE --IF YOU MET HIM IN THE STREET HE CAN CHARM YOU (YVES
POINT DU JOUR)--BEHIND THE MICROPHONE HE CAN BE A VILAIN (YVES DAYITI),AND
THE LIST OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN THE SUBJECT OF HIS ATTACKS IS LONG-- IF
YOU DON'T KNOW THAT BY NOW I WILL BE VERY SURPRISE, PASKE OU DI OU SE YOU
VETERAN NAN TOWN NAN.
SEGUNDO AMIGO SE PA GRO DEGREE LECOL KI FE MOUNE BON MOUNE OU BIEN VILAIN
. FRANCOIS DUVALIER ETAIT UN DOCTEUR MON AMI.---DO I NEED TO SAY MORE--
DONC CETTE HISTOIRE DE B.S P.H.D KE WAP PALE LA SE BOBINE. VACABON SE VACABON-
CRIMINEL SE CRIMINEL -VOLE SE VOLE MIN'M LE YO GUIN P.H.D .
DR. WE FOOT
we foot
silver spring, md - Monday, August 26, 2002 at 12:26:22 (EDT)
Smoochees, ma che fok mwen di ou konpliman paske ou gen ou bagay
ki bon konsa ki fe ke tout neg marie anvili. Si'm te jen toujou, mwen ta
di ou, bamfe ou ti gout tou. Ma che, afe'w pou ou, fe sa ou vle avek li.
Si gason yo pa vle ou lot, ou pa responsab. Chwazi moun ou vle pou bay li
e kale ko jan ou konin. Sa pa gade pinson moun.
Ayibobo
Ayibobo
Hyattsville , MD - Monday, August 26, 2002 at 08:56:33 (EDT)
Yopranm....gin yon ti pwoveb ki di'w: "Le chien aboit, la caravanne
passe". Sa moun nan pa konpran se zafe'm kap mache, kabwet mwen ap roule,
se ki vle di yo we'm mwen pa we yo. Nou kon moun nan Maryland, se sa yap
mache fe, fout moun kout langue. Mwen minm mwen pa ba yo regle yon merde
pou mwen. Tout otan yap pale, se dada'm kap vin pi gras.
A moun nan.....mwen ta konsey'w kontinye pale'm mal pou afe'm ka kontinye
mache pi byen toujou.
Kon di a djakout mizik......"si zafe'm ap mache, se le'm ki rive. Dis ti
piti tankou'w pa ka kraze djazz sa"
SMOOCH IN THE HOUSE FOR4EVER.....Sak pa konte anbake.....epi that's it wi!!!
smoochees
- Monday, August 26, 2002 at 08:51:27 (EDT)
@Smoochees, Ki kote goril sa yo soti? In any case girl, let he/she
knows that that se kapab ki fe. Mwen espere ke ou pa suspen' vini sou board
lan pou tet sa moune nan ekri yan.
Yopran'm
- Monday, August 26, 2002 at 08:18:30 (EDT)
Mezanmi wo.....fok yon jou pou yo ta atake'm. Se fout bon pou mwen.
Mwen kale ko'm trop sou board la. Li te le e tan. Ao kontre yo te en reta.
Pou jenm pale K**......LOL
LMAO
smoochees
- Sunday, August 25, 2002 at 19:39:44 (EDT)
we foot......thank you babe. Ou eklesi'm. Mwen swete yon jou wa
fe'm rekonet ou.....LOL.
Yopranm....thanks for the info. Don't know yet if I will be on the parkway.
I will see you if I am there.
smoochees
- Sunday, August 25, 2002 at 19:36:27 (EDT)
Oh !!!
Machiavel
- Sunday, August 25, 2002 at 16:25:26 (EDT)
tout moun sipose konnin smootches {{MESSAGE EDITED-WEBMASTER}}
paginchans < paginchans @aol.com>
washington, dc - Sunday, August 25, 2002 at 13:00:04 (EDT)
Smoochees, You could always email them at this address: ctu@hotmail.com.
By the way girl, are you heading to NYC for the carnival? I heard it's going
to be big this year , sweet micky and Tvice have made up ,and both of them
will be there.
Hope to see you there mami.
Yopran'm
- Saturday, August 24, 2002 at 14:59:53 (EDT)
Sak pasew'la smooches moin te compran'n ou te met town nan wi .Ki
ti kestion faible sa yo wap poze la, zanmi moin.
yves dayiti ak yves cadelien are 2 different people
-- dayiti pale nan radio---cadelien se met jounal trait d'union---se 2 different
66---
I love you smooches .---I think I know who you are ,but you don't know me
.--ha-ha-ha---lol --- oui fout manman.
we foot
SILVER SPRING, md - Saturday, August 24, 2002 at 10:38:27 (EDT)
Is Yves Cadelien and Yves Dayiti the same people? I'm really getting
confuse. Was Cadelien the guy ki tal fe frekan li an ak Papa Pye? Somebody
eklesi'm tanpri
smoochees
- Saturday, August 24, 2002 at 09:59:45 (EDT)
Yopranm....kote'm ka li atik sa pitit? I would love to read it.
smoochees
- Saturday, August 24, 2002 at 09:52:40 (EDT)
LU- BON OU MINM OU SON TI MOUNE .
AND I CAN SAY ALSO THAT BEFORE YOU RESPOND TO SOMEONE PLEASE READ CAREFULLY
AVAN OU ENTRE CROCHI CAR:
1)-JAN MOIN TE DIL BROAD LA PA POU MOIN ,LI PA POU OU TOU ,IT'S OPEN TO
THE PUBILC.
2)OU DI MAP VOYE ROCHE CACHE MIN- OU MIN TOU OU PA BAYE IDENTITEW- MOST
PEOPLE ON THE BROAD ARE USING A PSEUDO (FALSE NAME) WHY THE HELL YOU WANT
ME TO COME PUBLIC -THAT'S NOT THE CULTURE OF THIS BROAD.
3)- CADELIEN HAS HIS OWN PAPER WHERE HE CAN WRITE K* LI VLE - I AM ONLY
AN UPSET FAN ,SAM GUIYIN PAPA SI SE PA TI BROAD ECHO MOIN
4) MOIN TE DI TOU QUE TE GUIN LOT CRITIC SOU WACAHAPA MIN YO TE CONSTRUCTIVE
& PROFFESSIONALLY WRITTEN,WHILE CADELIEN KI SE YOU JOUNALIS RATE TE ECRI
SOU EMOTION SE SA QUI FE LI VOYE K*.
5)WAP PALE DE MANDE COB,MOIN PA TA BELEIVE KE OU SOT MIN JAN AK CADELIEN--NAN
QUI PEYI NOU YE LA MESIE--NAN TOUT KAFOU WASHINGTON TOUT MOUN AP MANDE -POLITICIEN
AP MANDE PREZIDEN AP MANDE-- POMPIE -POLICE- LEGLIZ- LECOL TOUT AP MANDE
--MOIN PA KONT NEG YO SI YO MANDE AYISIEN FRE YO -ET PA BLIYE MOUNE YO TE
KONTAN BAYE --SE SA OUI CADELIEN AP CRITIKE YA -- SE JALOUZI WI PAPA---OPEN
YOUR EYES AND YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THAT HE IS OUT TO DESTROY A GROUP OF PEOPLE
WHO ARE WORKING HARD SO WE CAN REPRESENT .
6) MAKE NO MISTAKE THEY SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO DELIVER KOUDJAY-THEY
DID - SO YO KAPAB- BUT CAN YOU OR CADELIEN AS MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY
HELP THEM GROW ,SO THAT NEXT TIME THEY CAN BRING T.VICE- MIKEY-TABOU-OR
MIZIK MIZIK- - CAN YOU MY FRIEND-- -WILL YOU - I DID GIVE MY CONTRIBUTION
TO WACAHAPA BY GOING TO ALL THEIR FUN-RAISING .LET ME TELL YOU, FEW PEOPLE
SHOWED UP AT THOSE FUN RAISING PARTIES ,BUT THE BAND WAS FULL ON GEORGIA
AVE--THAT'S WHY I AGREE WITH THEM THAT THE FUN RAISING SHOULD ALSO TAKE
PLACE ON GEORGIA --WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT BROTHER-- -OPEN YOUR EYES-NEG
YO PEDY KOB MIN YO DELIVRE CHAK ANNEE. I DON'T KNOW YOU, SO I DON'T KNOW
IF YOU WERE THERE,BUT I DO KNOW CADELIEN AND LET ME TELL YOU THAT HE NEVER
ATTENDED AND THEREFORE DID NOT SUPPORT THE WACAHAPA MOUVEMENT--- POINT BAR---THAT'S
WHY I SAID LI MAL PLACE.
IF HE IS A FAN OF MIZIK RACIN LIKE HE SAID ON THE ARTICLE,WHY HE ONLY WAITED
TO SEE KC THE BAND FOR FREE ON GEORGIA AVE --ONCE AGAIN HE DID NOT CONTRIBUTE
HIS MONEY TO THE FRIDAY NIGHT CONCERT IN SILVER SPRING.-- KOUDJAY ROCK THE
PLACE THAT NIGHT.
BELIEVE ME I HAVE DIRECT INFO INSIDE TRAIT D'UNION THAT CADELIEN IS LOOKING
TO WRITE THOSE KIND OF ARTICLE. HE WANTS TO ATTACK CERTAIN GROUPS AND PEOPLE
IN THE COMMUNITY JUST TO INCREASE THE POPULARITY OF HIS DYING PAPER. HE
WANTS TO TURN TRAIT D'UNION LIKE THE HAITI OBSERVATEUR OF THIS COMMUNITY
BUT HE DOESN'T HAVE THE MONEY YET TO DO IT--- -VEYE YO- I SAID --VEYE YO
ANMWEEEEE
-I ALSO FIND OUT THAT BEFORE THIS ARTICLE HIT THE STREET THERE WAS A BIG
DISAGRREMENT BECAUSE THE OTHER MEMBERS DID NOT GIVE HIM THE GREEN LIGHT----BUT
AS THE MACOUT OF THE GROUP HE RELEASE IT ANYWAY. HE IS A VAGABON- M.F
6) FINALLY MY FRIEND--- YVES CADELIEN IS NOT A BANNAN MI---BANNAN MI DON'T
HAVE NEWS PAPER TO WRITE K* SOU YOU KOMINOTE---- BANANN MI PA PREN MICRO
NAN BOUCH MOUN---- SE GRO PONYET KI FE SA---MAKOUT-- -ANCIEN GEN DAME KI
TAP VEYE RANCH JEAN CLOD KI KA FE SA. OUVE JEW TANDE PITI .SAW KONNIN.
we foot
SILVER SPRING, MD - Friday, August 23, 2002 at 20:58:38 (EDT)
Mr. Cadelien is a very respectful man. Mwen pa konnin koman li ye
lakay li, avek madan'm li, se yon moune ki toujou nan fete, mwen pa jan'm
tande 'l ap bay kout lang.
Mwen pa konnin kisa ki te pase avek papa pie, donk mwen pa ka di anyin.
Mwen pense le yon kritike'w sa ede'w avance. Mwen li e reli atik nan "TRAIT
D'UNION" , M'sieu pa di anyin de WAKAHAPA. Sel bagay li di ki vre, li ta
suggere ke Komite ki organize kanaval lan fe fet tou temps , maybe all year
long pou evite problem ki te ginyin annee sa'a ( money) Se byen domaj ke
moun pa rinmin kritik, se byen domaj ke moun toujou essaye mete plis ke
ginyin pou fe zin.
Pou moun ki bezwen resevwa Trait-d'Union nou ka ekri en ligne sou adres
sila'a : ctu2000@hotmail.com.
Yopran'm
- Friday, August 23, 2002 at 20:34:52 (EDT)
Smoochees, please do that and I think you would not regret it. Sometimes
when you talk to someone and see where they are coming from is a totally
different ball game as opposed to people telling you their stories. Like
they siad, there are two sides to a coin.
Oh regarding that incident involving Yves Cadelien and Papa Pye, I agree
it was rude for him to walk up the stage and took the microphone in the
guy's hand. He should have called on the organizers to simmply cut the microphone
off and drop the curtain. Someone would have come out and apologize for
the technical difficulty. I fully agree with you Smoochees. I am also astonished
to find out that he {{MESSAGE EDITED-WEBMASTER}}. That is unbelievable.
Peace and love
Ayibobo
Ayibobo
Hyattsville, MD - Friday, August 23, 2002 at 16:23:43 (EDT)
Ayibobo...si tout moun te fe tankou'w nan Maryland nou tap gin yon
bel komunote ayisyene. Se sel emisyon ajimal la ak yves dayiti ki la toujou
ki gin sukse.Depi'm te vin MD se de show sa yo mwen te konnin kom pwogram
ayisyen e se yo ki la toujou. Moun MD jalou anpil. Yo pa jenm vle we yon
lot ap minnin pase yo. Depi yo we afe'w ap mache yo soti pou yo kraze bounda'w.
Se sak fe tout kote nou pase yo toujou ap di pou jen chaje ak ayisyen nan
MD koman fe nou pa gin pwogram/aktivite ayisyen. Sa se yon wont. Moun MD
se sa yap mache fe kraze bounda moun anba kout lang. Se nan sa yo pi fo.
Yo pran diplome nan kout lang. Se metye yo.
So ayibobo.....I am so glad that you took your time to judge Mr Yves Dayiti
for yourself. Moun vin pale'w de li a tout sa you met him, ou tande li,
ou we ki moun li ye, konya la ou fe jijmen pa'w. Well done babe. I don't
know the guy myself but I am hoping to meet him one of these days, to congratulate
him on a job well done and to chase away all the negatives comments/remarks
that I've heard about him and to meet the positive side of Mr Yves Dayiti.
smoochees
- Friday, August 23, 2002 at 14:54:24 (EDT)
Mobutoo...that still was not any reason for him to disrespect a
well known star like Papa Pye. He messed it up for the rest of us, who also
paid our money for a good show. Where's our respect? That man should have
known what type of comedian Papa Pye is. Ou pa minnin ti moun kote gran
moun ap hang. I'm not saying Papa Pye was right. Neg la, who ever he is,
se frekan li ye. Se bibit li pense ke'l ginyin konsa. Se sa'm rahi ak ti
ayisyen sou devlope ki leve nan coridor epi le yon rentre icit yap vin di
moun ke se petion ville yo soti a wi. Li pa tap jenm permet li fe yon K***
konsa nan yon bagay amerikin. Se polis ki tap vin dechouke'l andedan an.
Alo pa vin di'm mesye byen fe sa'l te fe a. Minm nou minm nan publik la
li derespekte. Who the F**** he thinks he is. Mwen te fin blye bagay sa
konya la nou leve koze a. Jou sa mwen te vexe anpil. Neg la ap kouri pou
betiz Papa Pye tap di (ki betiz a to...mo yo te en parabol) ale we le'l
lap joure madanm li se en betiz li joure'l devan pitit li yo. Betiz senti
enko wi. Mwen regret li pat pran yon bel kal jou swa sa. Mwen pa kwe lap
jen fe frekan sa enko. Denye fwa a yo pat pran'l....{{MESSAGE EDITED-WEBMASTER}}.
smoochees
- Friday, August 23, 2002 at 14:31:36 (EDT)
We foot, you mention something something that they can contact "Yves
Dayiti pou voye monte avek yo". I can affirm you that Dayiti is the only
one in Washington that has a lot of knowledge on what is going on in the
area. I had a chance to meet and chat with him at Ti Claude Coiffeur not
too long ago. The guy is a very interesting individual. I gave him a lot
of praises for his courage and his determination. Not only that here is
someone who came to this country at an early age, went to school, earned
his BS degree and then went on to teach haitian refugees who became migrant
workers their rights. He even nearly died twice, he said, once in Maryland
and another time in Tampa defending haitians. he then went and got 2 Masters'
Degrees and is currently working on his PH. D. besides teaching at Morgan
State and working as an Engineer for Maryland Department of Transportation.
I may not like and agree with whatever he says but on Saturday night, the
majority of people tune in (including myself), learn something and he gives
you something to think about. His name has never bee associated with bad
things in our community. Not only that, the rest of the community learns
about Haiti. I think we have to appreciate that. Some people may not like
the guy but sometimes one has to wonder why? It is important that we have
a place to "voye monte". His radio show is one of the only real successes
that we have in our community.
Ayibobo
Ayibobo
Hyattsville, MD - Friday, August 23, 2002 at 14:10:26 (EDT)
Nice Site S.R.
Clarke
- Friday, August 23, 2002 at 14:03:13 (EDT)
WeFoot, Papa Piè tap di bétiz sou stage la pandan ké té gin plin
ti moun nan auditorium nan. Lap jouré blan pandan ké blan tap édé group
ayisien-an.
Mobutoo
- Friday, August 23, 2002 at 13:11:58 (EDT)
ALA TRAKA......merci!
smoochees
- Friday, August 23, 2002 at 10:58:16 (EDT)
SMOOCHEES, Sa ou ekri sou zafè politik la sé sa nèt, si sé pa lespri
Bondié ki palé nan tèt ou wa, sé bon lwa natif natal ki tap vizitéw...Tout
Ayisian sé politisyan pwofésyonel, yo kanpé kité yon lòt fè pou yo ka kritiké...Pandan
yap palé yon séri moun ap mouri grangou pandan yon lòt séri gen kay 12 chan'm
a kouché nan Kenkòf
BRAVO SMOOCHEES
ALA TRAKA
- Friday, August 23, 2002 at 10:55:34 (EDT)
I would love to read this article. Where can I find it? Is there
a link online for Trait Union?
smoochees
- Friday, August 23, 2002 at 10:11:38 (EDT)
To We Foot, if you have issues with Yves Cadelien I would suggest
that you be man/woman enough to discuss it with him. Pa monte sou echodhaiti
pou'w ap voye woch kache min. Mr Cadelien ekri yon atik sou sa li te konstate
nan kanaval lan. O mwen li gin kouraj pou li fe'l, mwen kwe ke sa pa li
min'm selman ki kritike WAKAHAPA, gin ampil lot ki fe'l . Imagine pendan
yon defile kanaval, yo stope yon musik pou mande la jan, epi yo gin kouraj
pou yo di si moun' pa bay lajan yo pap kontinye mizik lan , what the hell
is that? Se kapab ki fe, yo pat gin kob pou yo te fe koujay rentre, ke yo
te pran DJ selman. Wap pale de kontribisyon Mr Cadelien nan kominaute ya.
Ki sa ou kontribiye? Tchuip... Dan pouri toujou gin fos sou banan' mi.
LU
- Friday, August 23, 2002 at 09:07:48 (EDT)
Ki kote mwen ka jwen Tre dinyon sa-a?? Exaxctly, how many people
do you think are checking out Echo??
There's only a few who write on the board.
map swiv
- Thursday, August 22, 2002 at 23:31:56 (EDT)
AYITI RR - I FEEL YOU & I AM WITH YOU,I ONLY HOPE THAT PEOPLE PUTTING
THOSE LONG ARTICLES ON THE BROAD WILL FOLLOW YOUR ADVICE.-
AYIBOBO DON'T GET ME WRONG - IF YOU KNEW WHO I AM YOU WOULD HAVE GOT THE
SURPRISE OF YOUR LIFE - I AM NOT AGAINST YOUNG PEOPLE'S INVOLVEMENT IN POLITICS
-I'AM ONLY SAYING TO EVERYONE TO PLEASE LET'S KEEP IT FUN HERE & AVOID THE
VOYE MONTE,THAT'S WHY I AGREE WITH AYITI RR WHEN HE SAID JUST GIVE US THE
LINK.
KITE CANTIK PRE PRIYE KI MALPROPTE SA KE COLLECTIF TRAIT D'UNION ECRIT SOU
WACAHAPA LA
COLLECTIF TRAIT D'UNION SA SE YOU NEGATIF TRAIT D'UNION .
KI MOUN KI TE NOMME YVES CADELIN ROBIN DES BWA NAN COMMINOTE YA-
SI SE PA MICRO LA'L PREN NAN BOUCH PAPA PIE -SE NEGATIF LAP ECRI NAN JOUNAL
DE BOUT PAPIE LI YA . POUKI SA LI PAWE PITO KE XPOZE MAGAZINE IS TAKING
OVER .DEPI TAN NEGATIF TRAIT D'UNION LA,LI STILL PA SEMBLE ANYIN MIN'M JAN
AK CADELIEN.-- CRITIC TOUJOU BON, EZPOXE TE FE CRITIC MIN YO PAT PALE K*
POU OTAN,ECHO D'HAITI TE FE CRITIC MIN YO PAT PALE K* POU OTAN
YVES CADELIEN MAL PLACE, PASKE LI PA JANM EDE ANYIN NAN COMMINOTE YA - LI
SELMAN TOUJOU LA POU ECRI MALPROPTE--
AN MWEEEEEEEEEEEE WE FOOT ANMWEEEEEEEEEEE
we foot
silver spring, md - Thursday, August 22, 2002 at 19:49:21 (EDT)
Smoochees, you are so right that all statements are political in
nature. You have made those statements without realizing that they are political.
You have outlined the problems and even suggested some answers. My friend,
it is political. Life istself is political. Living in a house with husband
or wife is political. Your survival in life depends on your level of political
dexterity. The key is our way of viewing politics in our community. This
is where I am coming from and this is where I am headed with this. I hope
you understand me. Do not look at it as Macoute versus lavalas versus convergence.
The other side of it is the patriotic approach and the civic responsibility
that we lack. That is another issue.
Ayibobo
Ayibobo
Hyattsville , MD - Thursday, August 22, 2002 at 14:14:44 (EDT)
Bon mwen minm...mwen dako ak "we foot". Afe politk la mwen pa ladan.
Mwen pa vle we politik, mwen pa jen sipote sa, e sa pa jenm interese'm.
Sitou politik lakay nou. Se de sije ou pa diskite ak ayisyen.....politik
ak relijyon. Konvesasyon sa yo toujou tounin en koboy. Si se koze politik
kap vin pale la, map tou di nou....SMOOCH AIN'T IN IT!
Chita ap pale de politik pap regle anyen pou peyi a. Nou pale met la. Se
metye nou sa nou minm ayisyen diaspora bo icit la. Tout moun gin foli preziden.
Nou pense ke nou ka fe yon bagay pou peyi a. Plezi nou se chita anba basement
lakay nou, reuni yon ekip so call politisyen, bwe tafia, jwe domino, ap
diskite politik, min sa'm tap fe si'm te aristide, min se si min se la,
sak pi red la nan tout pale anpil sa yo, gin nan nou ki kite ayiti depi
en mil nef sen konbyen, mwen pot ko minm fet le sa, ki nan ekzil depi sou
DUVALIER (PAPA DOK) epi nou pense nou ka fe yon bagay pou ayiti. Se nou
kap met devin konsa sou ti peyi a. Pawol nou yo se madichon. Tank nap pale
met la tank peyi a ap vin en k* de jou en jou. Nap mache di nou rinmin peyi
nou, oh ayiti cherie'm nan, pendan ce tan nou pap mete pwint tet nou potoprins.
Sa fe'n pa fe tankou kibin pito. Kibin pale e li fe aksyon.
smoochees
- Thursday, August 22, 2002 at 12:49:07 (EDT)
we foot...I did not object to what they were posting, but the method
in which it was done. This is an open board, you can post anything you want,
but rather than post a lengthy article which was obviously copied from somwhere
else, the poster could of posted a simple link that would take you to that
site.
ayiti_rr
- Thursday, August 22, 2002 at 12:16:47 (EDT)
I notice something that has brought my attention. I agree that the
board my not be a political forum but it is an open medium. Anyone can come
and bring their views whether one agrees or not. Otherwise make it a private
membership club. Needless to say that I have a problem when someone said
and especially haitians that "mwen pap fe politik", this statement is the
biggest representation of the highest level of ignorance and miseducation.
A politian is someone who is elected to do a job. He or she is elected by
individuals of the community, the state or the country. Otherwise, it is
a job. A politician is hired by us and we have the right to elect them and
to remove them. So the participation of representatives in the community
is necessary for the process to be effective. Young and old must be involved.
When someone said that they are not involved in politics, this reminds me
of two things: during the Duvalier era, you used to hear that a lot "mwen
pap foure bouch mwen nan zafe moun". Otherwise this was a way to keep people
from participating. Second, people who are saying that they do not want
to be involved in politics are the one who fully knows that their politics
are controversial. I am sending this especially for the youngs. You see
the jewish community: look at the polling booths on election day, you see
their youngs manning those polling places. There is a lesson to learn there.
We have young democrats and young republicans. We have a community and we
have a country too and we have an origin. We must be involved and fight
for future generations so that they can have a better tomorrow. The question
is Why we haitians are so different?
Ayibobo
Ayibobo
Hyattsville, MD - Thursday, August 22, 2002 at 11:03:06 (EDT)
MAP SWIV - OU PAP SWIV PAPA - SIW TAP SWIV OU TA WE KE BROAD LA
AP CHANGE SOU NOU .I THINK THAT AYITI RR IS RIGHT BY TELLING THOSE POLITICAL
FANATIC TO POST THEIR CRAP SOMEWHERE ELSE.SOON YOU WILL SEE THAT TOUTE MOUNE
FOU KI GEN FOLI JOUNALIS, KI GEN FOLI PREZIDAN ,KI GEN FOLI POLITICIEN PRAL
SEVI AK TI BROAD SA KOM YOU KOTE POU FE PASE AGENDA YO - POU ECRI FATRA
POLITIK.
NOU KON NIN KE ECHO PA NAN POLITIK MIN SE NOU KI POU KITE'L KONSA .SE POLTICIEN
TET CHAT SA YO POU DI POUSE BOURIK YO AL K* PI DEVAN , SE PA ZANMI KI SOU
BROAD LA YO POU DI SA .MAP SWIV FOK OU SWIV WI .METE GRAN MOUNE SOU OU.
JEUNE YO,AN NOU RELE ANMWEEEE POU BROAD LA PA TOUNIN YOU JOUNAL.SE MOIN
KI KON'N SA MAP DI LA. VEYE YO
we foot
silver spring, md - Thursday, August 22, 2002 at 10:39:02 (EDT)
Si neg sa swiv byen, la we ke Eko dAyiti pa pou politik. "Pouse
bourik ou al K* pi devan!!"
map swiv
- Wednesday, August 21, 2002 at 17:01:28 (EDT)
Next time just post the link please...
ayiti_rr
- Wednesday, August 21, 2002 at 13:01:59 (EDT)
Haiti Chief Must Quit, Escapee Says
August 4, 2002, 11:34 AM EDT
GONAIVES, Haiti -- Families walked to church Sunday as calm settled on the
streets of this Haitian port city, two days after gunmen drove a tractor
through a prison wall and unleashed 159 inmates, including a local political
activist.
None of the escaped convicts was reported captured, and no police were on
the streets Sunday.
Many people blamed President Jean-Bertrand Aristide's government for the
chaos.
"We don't like disorder, but Aristide is to blame. I'm sorry I voted for
him. He's given street thugs a free hand," Smith Auguste, a 21-year-old
unemployed man, said Saturday.
Many residents in the dusty streets of Gonaives, a west-coast city of 200,000
people, complained they have no electricity, few jobs and little hope.
Escaped activist Amiot Metayer accused Aristide of wrongly putting him behind
bars and demanded the resignation of the president, a former ally.
About 100 supporters of Metayer led a reporter to the activist in his shantytown
stronghold on Saturday, chanting: "Down with Aristide!"
"The future of Haiti is a Haiti without Aristide," Metayer told The Associated
Press in a tin-walled room. "Aristide should resign." Thirty of his militants
from the self-styled Cannibal Army stood guard, some carrying pistols and
submachine guns.
The latest violence and apparent inability of police to react is another
indication of the growing chaos enveloping the hemisphere's poorest nation,
mired in a two-year political impasse over fraudulent elections that has
blocked international aid.
Police fled the city after the jailbreak, then returned Saturday in small
numbers. But none dared approach Metayer's stronghold in the Gonaives shantytown
of Raboteau.
Only charred ruins remain where people set fire to the courthouse and city
hall on Friday, after the jailbreak.
Metayer turned against Aristide after he was jailed July 2 on charges of
burning down houses of a rival gang. The activist says he is innocent.
"I suffered for the cause of democracy, and Aristide ordered my arrest,"
said Metayer, dressed in black with a red bandanna around his neck.
According to an Organization of American States report, Metayer participated
in past attacks on Aristide opponents, including an assault on the home
of politician Luc Mesadieu on Dec. 17. After an armed attack on the country's
National Palace that day, Aristide supporters attacked opposition offices
and homes.
Mesadieu's assistant, Ramy Daran, was doused with gasoline and burned to
death. Mesadieu said he saw Metayer give orders to kill Daran.
The 38-year-old activist denied it, saying although he saw Daran die, "I
came too late to save him. I never hurt anybody in my life."
At least 10 people died in the Dec. 17 violence, which Aristide claims was
a coup attempt. The opposition claims it was staged as a pretext to clamp
down on dissent.
Police fruitlessly searched cars and buses for escaped prisoners on the
southbound highway from Gonaives to Port-au-Prince, about 60 miles away.
The gunmen used a stolen tractor to ram the prison wall, freeing 159 of
the 221 inmates, said Clifford Larose, director of Haiti's prison system.
One prisoner was shot and killed by the attackers.
Metayer's supporters had been demanding his release for week. In a handwritten
list of demands, they urged the creation of an interim government, new elections
by November 2003 and raising wages of police and other workers. Metayer
also said he wants safe passage to Orlando, Fla., where his mother and two
daughters are staying.
Government officials didn't immediately respond to the demands.
One Life to Live < Jean_Willie4U@yahoo.com>
Washington, DC - Wednesday, August 21, 2002 at 02:09:05 (EDT)
Old News, but new you need to know.........
Cooperative Banks Go Bust in Haiti
By MICHAEL NORTON Associated Press Writer , © The Associated Press 07/27/2002
Cooperative Banks Go Bust, Losing Life Savings for Thousands and Adding
to Despair in Haiti
JACMEL, Haiti (AP) _ Nicolas Greffin lost his life savings and property
to a cooperative banking scheme that has left him and untold thousands across
Haiti in despair.
Without notice, government-endorsed cooperative banks are folding, raising
questions about the high interest they paid and allegations they were used
to launder drug money.
Their demise has brought new desperation and provoked violent protests in
a country mired in poverty and a 2-year-old political impasse that has blocked
international aid.
Like other Haitians, Greffin says he was swept up in a wave of banking enthusiasm
that began last year.
The 54-year old veterinarian's assistant sold two small houses and a plot
of land, withdrew his savings from a commercial bank and deposited the lot
_ the equivalent of $8,900 _ in two of the 10 cooperatives in Jacmel, a
seaside tourist town in southern Haiti.
That was May 25. On June 1, many co-ops shut down and the owners vanished
with the depositors' savings.
"I lost everything, for six days of illusion," Greffin said, with tears
in his eyes.
Greffin blames President Jean-Bertrand Aristide because, "He encouraged
us to join the cooperative movement and never warned us these banks were
not part of it."
Members of legitimate cooperatives, which have existed in Haiti since 1937,
pool their resources and invest in farming, fishing and housing.
As the cooperative banks began operating last year, government advertisements
began appearing endorsing the cooperative movement, and officials including
Aristide did the same. Though they never tied the movement to the banks,
the timing led people to believe their government was endorsing the banks.
Aristide, who some Haitians consider the savior who delivered them from
the dictatorship of the Duvalier family, appeared to be endorsing another
form of salvation.
"Haiti can only succeed through the cooperative movement," Henriot Petiotte,
director of the state National Cooperative Council, said in an interview
July 2 on Radio Metropole.
But he also said that "if it's true the president encouraged people to join
the cooperative movement," Aristide "referred to traditional cooperatives
_ not 'new wave' ones."
The co-op banks offered up to 15 percent monthly interest on term accounts,
compared to commercial banks' 2 to 7 percent annual interest. The commercial
banks held deposits totaling about $1 billion, while the cooperative banks,
economists estimate, gathered $80-150 million.
In December, commercial bank customers began moving savings to cooperatives
in alarming numbers.
In January, Sogebank, Haiti's largest bank, returned deposits to a dozen
or so cooperatives. An economist who spoke on condition of anonymity said
correspondent U.S. banks expressed fears the cooperatives were depositing
drug money in Sogebank.
Depositing money with legitimate banks could have "washed" the money for
drug dealers.
It is no coincidence, economists and analysts say, that the cooperatives
shifted into high gear in mid-2001, shortly after passage of a law requiring
banks to notify authorities of deposits exceeding $10,000. The law didn't
apply to the co-ops.
Haitians became fearful. Confidence waned; the number of new investors shrank.
Old investors tried to withdraw money too late.
Dozens of co-ops have closed since April, provoking sometimes violent demonstrations.
In Jacmel, more than 5,000 of the 150,000 people had invested in the co-ops.
But since one wage earner supports about 10 people in Haiti, some 50,000
people _ a third of the population _ are directly affected.
Jackson Alexandre, a 29-year old accountant, transferred his savings of
$7,500 to three co-ops. Now he is penniless and out of work. His boss was
forced into bankruptcy because of his own co-op investment.
"What happened to Jacmel was worse than a hurricane," Alexandre said.
Mystery still shrouds the co-ops' ability to pay such high interest rates.
"Do new deposits pay interest on old deposits?" former Planning Minister
Marc Bazin asked, alluding to pyramid schemes that, in countries like Albania,
led to disaster as money owed to initial investors exceeded funds deposited
by those who followed.
In February, Haiti had about 300 co-op banks, with about 185,000 members.
It's unclear how many remain.
In Jacmel, only two are left. One, called Coeurs Unis, or United Hearts,
has purchased fleets of taxis and buses, gas stations, schools, and real
estate since it opened in October.
In May it bought a 28-room beach hotel outside Jacmel for a reported $3.4
million. With its 40 employees and low occupancy rate, it's doubtful the
Mirage Hotel is making money.
But it is located on a newly tarred 18-mile road nicknamed Cocaine Alley.
It lies along beaches where boats from Colombia often drop bundles of drugs.
This month, Coeurs Unis lowered its monthly interest rate from 12 to 5 percent.
Days earlier, Aristide announced that "There is no crisis of the cooperative
movement" and pledged "the state will abandon nobody who deposited money
in a cooperative and was victimized."
But it's doubtful the cash-strapped government can reimburse victims by
October, as it has promised.
Sat Jul 27, 1:03 AM ET
A young girl passes a sign advertising one of the scores of credit unions
which promised investors 10 to 15 percent interest per month near the entrance
to the coastal town of Jacmel, Haiti, in this July 11, 2002 photo. Thousands
of poor and middle-class Haitians have lost their life's savings in the
scores of pyramid-scheme "cooperatives" which sprung up after President
Jean-Bertrand Aristide said Haiti was "a cooperative country.". (AP Photo/
Daniel Morel)
Sat Jul 27, 1:02 AM ET
Rousseau Toussaint shows his bankbook as he explains how a government-endorsed
cooperative bank in the coastal town of Jacmel, Haiti, closed its doors
and its officers disappeared with his life's savings in this July 11, 2002
photo. Toussaint is one of thousands of middle-class and poor Haitians who
invested in the pyramid-scheme "cooperatives" at President Jean-Bertrand
Aristide's encouragement. (AP Photo/ Daniel Morel)
One Life to Live < Jean_Willie4u@yahoo.com>
Washington, DC - Wednesday, August 21, 2002 at 01:56:47 (EDT)
PORT-AU-PRINCE -- The two times President Jean-Bertrand Aristide
of Haiti took office since 1991, euphoric supporters filled the streets
singing praises for a charismatic priest who was supposed to rescue them
from the embrace of misery.
Armed with shovels, rakes, brooms and paintbrushes, they spruced up buildings,
walls and facades to welcome their beloved leader with shouts of ''Viv Titid''
or ''Long live Titid,'' an affectionate nickname.
Many of those supporters and their children still sing during demonstrations.
But the lyrics have changed.
``For years now we've been in misery . . . It's still the same thing. Down,
down, down with Aristide.''
A series of blunders during the past two years have unleashed a powerful
wave of anti-government sentiment that threatens to dismantle Aristide's
popular base. As the majority of Haitians grow increasingly weary of living
in squalor, the president's dwindling political stature could set in motion
a chain of events that would force the United States to take action, observers
say.
The dilemma facing policymakers is to determine the ''way to stability,''
said James Morrell, executive director of the Haiti Democracy Project, a
Washington-based think tank. ``Something has really changed in Haiti. The
divine mandate is over.''
Among the contributing factors spreading discontent across the Caribbean
nation:
• A cooperative pyramid scheme that has affected large segments of the middle
class. Traditionally, cooperatives in Haiti pool member resources to invest
in farming, fishing and housing with revolving loan accounts generally offering
a 4 percent annual rate of return. But cooperatives that arose during the
past three years, offering rates of at least 10 percent, are on the brink
of collapse amid allegations they were used to launder drug money, costing
investors $200 million;
• A fuel shortage that has reduced electrical service to as little as three
hours a day. Tapped-out fueling stations recently bumped up the price of
fuel on the black market and crippled transportation and deliveries of food
and other supplies to outlying areas;
• A stalemate in negotiations for an accord between the government and its
opposition, which would help dislodge millions of dollars in international
aid. The May 2000 elections, swept by Aristide's Lavalas Family party, were
fraught with irregularities and cries of voter fraud. The dispute is over
how many seats the opposition should hold in the Haitian parliament;
• Widespread corruption and an ill-equipped police force of less than 3,000
officers for a nation of more than 8 million.
''The prospects simply aren't good,'' said Steve Horblitt, a political scientist
and longtime analyst of U.S.-Haiti relations. ``The government of Haiti
continues its long history of not being a provider of services but an extractor.
''What happens in Haiti affects the United States,'' said Horblitt, who
works for Creative Associates International Inc., a Washington consulting
firm. ``This administration needs to have a real clear reexamination of
policy. The U.S. can help Haiti, but it can't help without a partner there.
We need to be very clear about our interests and our principles and we need
to make it clear to that gentleman [Aristide] that we're not playing.''
By the end of the month, parents who are already strapped financially will
be faced with the costs of sending their children back to school. And a
budget crunch may mean no money to pay teachers.
''Haiti is always like a fire waiting for a spark to set it off,'' said
a Western diplomat. ``The next days will be telling to see how much momentum
is generating from this anti-Aristide movement.''
''There is a simmering situation,'' said the diplomat, who spoke on condition
of anonymity. ``There is more political tension than there has been in awhile.''
`STOLEN OUR MONEY!'
Violent episodes have left more than a dozen people dead, forced journalists
into hiding or exile and dragged the Organization of American States into
the internal turmoil with an investigation into a Dec. 17 attack on the
National Palace that contradicted the government's claim of a failed coup
attempt.
But the most dramatic event was an Aug. 2 jailbreak in Gonaives that marked
the first time in which Haiti's poor -- the core of Aristide's support --
backed calls by two well-known fugitives for Aristide's removal.
Since then, acts of defiance have been reported in several places including
L'estere, Port-de-Paix, St. Marc, Petit-Goave and Cap-Haitien. Last week,
striking longshoremen in Port-au-Prince built flaming tire barricades on
the seaside boulevard, threatening to block the capital port until they
are paid a traditional back-to-school bonus.
''The government has stolen our money!'' demonstrators shouted. About 80
percent of Haitian education is in private hands, and school fees have followed
the trend in inflation, which has increased almost 90 percent in six years.
''We want the whole international community to understand that Aristide
was behind a lot of the bad things that have happened in this country,''
said Edmond Saintil, 28, a leader of one of several political organizations
in Raboteau, a shanty town in Gonaives and former Aristide stronghold. ``Is
the international community going to help us or are they going to let us
die?''
STOKING THE COALS
Aristide, whose rise to power began with Haiti's liberation theology movement,
was able to galvanize public support by offering a dream of a Haiti with
an economy with jobs for all; a security force that would rid the streets
of armed thugs; and government programs that would reduce the number of
children who go to sleep hungry.
But he has been unable to deliver on any of these promises because of his
failure to overcome the unending political intrigue. The unresolved dispute
with the opposition damaged Haiti's international standing, obliging foreign
governments to withdraw offers of aid that Aristide could have used to re-ignite
the economy.
Inside the country, a number of incidents during his tenure have damaged
Aristide's reputation, but the public outcry by former supporters wasn't
evident until the Gonaives jailbreak in which 159 prisoners escaped.
One of the fugitives, longtime Aristide opponent and convicted murderer
Jean Tatoune, has faded into the background and his whereabouts are unknown.
Another escapee, Amiot ''Cubain'' Metayer, remains in Gonaives. But he is
no longer calling for Aristide's ouster and now has a team of lawyers for
a defense that will likely include a request for amnesty on charges of his
involvement in the Dec. 17 palace attack.
However, his original call for the replacement of Aristide seemed to strike
a chord with many of his countrymen. There appears to be no way for Aristide
to regain his popularity quickly.
''I don't agree with violent methods, burning tires and buildings, that
is not democratic,'' said Victor Benoit, a leader with an opposition multi-party
alliance known as Democratic Convergence. ``But Metayer started something
by saying that Aristide needs to leave. These words are significant and
strong to most of the opposition parties in the country.''
MORE MIGRANTS
One measure of the discontent is the continuing wave of migrants desperate
to get out of Haiti at any cost. Bahamian authorities have picked up about
2,500 Haitian migrants this year, at least twice as many as all of last
year. Fearing more will flee political unrest, the Royal Bahamian Defense
Force has stepped up patrols around Inagua, a popular drop-off point.
For many, the dream of improving their lives by staying home has vanished.
''Things have been getting worse day to day,'' said an elderly shopkeeper
in Cap-Haitien who declined to give his name. ``Those who don't have work
don't eat.''
Nearby, a scrawny teenager who hauls merchandise on a wheelbarrow to earn
money to help his family, sat pondering during a short break.
Asked what he was thinking, Michele Jean Pierre replied: ``What's going
to happen to my country.''
One Life to Live < jean_willie4u@yahoo.com>
Washington, DC USA - Tuesday, August 20, 2002 at 22:42:51 (EDT)
HAITI
Time U.S. rethought strategy for woebegone nation
Earlier this month, armed supporters crashed through a prison wall,
freeing 159 prisoners in the Haitian city of Gonaives, 60 miles from
Port-au-Prince. Last week, one of the escaped prisoners, a longtime foe
of
President Jean-Bertrand Aristide, led riots and calls for Aristide's
ouster. The political upheaval -- along with Haiti's chronic and
widespread economic misery -- presents an opportunity to reflect not only
on
Aristide's utter failures and the absence of any viable alternative to his
government, but on the failure of U.S. policies aimed at spurring
reform on the island.
Clinton administration officials had hoped that Aristide, the nation's
first democratically elected leader, could build a functional democracy
in Haiti. But evidence of corruption and human rights abuses, including
rigged legislative elections in May 2000, prompted the Bush
administration to cut off foreign aid to Haiti and to block international
loans.
Aristide initiated minor reforms, but Secretary of State Colin Powell
declared recently, and credibly, that these have not gone far enough.
The State Department continues to send humanitarian aid, just not
directly to the Haitian government.
Haitian supporters counter that without U.S. foreign aid, Aristide is
doomed to fail. That, too, is a convincing argument. Denying direct aid
to Aristide likely will assist in his overthrow, while the lack of a
suitable alternative to his Lavalas political party is sure to abet the
current lawlessness.
Beyond the humanitarian arguments, Americans share a practical interest
in calming Haitian unrest. A descent into anarchy could spur another
mass migration of Haitians to the United States, such as the one that
followed the early '90s terror commencing after the military overthrew
Aristide just months after his first election. Relieving the country's
economic stagnation also will help check drug trafficking through Haiti,
although this is complicated by the fact that Aristide himself has been
accused of drug involvement.
The political and economic reforms hoped for in Haiti clearly have not
come to pass. If a complete meltdown in this hemisphere's poorest
nation is to be averted, the United States must rethink its policy on Haiti.
One life to live < jean_willie4u@yahoo.com>
Washington, DC - Tuesday, August 20, 2002 at 22:40:09 (EDT)
Nou konnen Family reunion 31 out la ak kanaval Labor day nan NewYork
la rive pou okazyon sa nou genyen on seri bel mas ki an papye mache ki soti
Jacmel kapital kanaval an Haiti . Si gen moun ki enterese yo kapab rele
nou nan . 301 277 5107.
joe duplan < chevalnoir_2000@hotmail.com>
hyattsville, md usa - Tuesday, August 20, 2002 at 18:56:22 (EDT)
Hello guys....WHAT'S UP ECHO? Sak gin nan loj?
Yopranm....min mwen wi. Ki koze Elvis sa? I am glad to see GA is in the
house. Keep it up GA.
To all the gentlemen.....I am still waiting for that special date for ZIN.
Speaking of ZIN.....Has anybody heard of Allan Cave's new song " Fe'l Pou
Mwen "? Ahhhhhhhhh....bon bagay net. The man is still doing it. Still kicking
it with the best. Alon Alan sa a. He gets better and better every year.
Ko manman.
smoochees
- Tuesday, August 20, 2002 at 14:38:46 (EDT)
WE FOOT PEOPLE ,TAMPRI PA POLITIZE BROAD LA .KITE BROAD LA POU JEUNE
YO DEFOULE YO .THOSE OF YOU WHO WANT TO TALK POLITICS CONTACT YVES DAYITI
,HE WILL BE GLAD TO "VOYE MONTE" WITH YOU .I KNOW THE BROAD IS NOT MINE,BUT
I WOULD HATE TO SEE THIS BROAD AS THE LATRINE OF THE POLITICAL FANATICS
, OR AN AVENUE FOR MACOUTES & LAVALAS TO "VOYE MONTE" ON EACH OTHER. YOUNG
PEOPLE LET'S KEEP IT FUN FUN FUN AN MWEYYYYYYYYE FOOT
WE FOOT
we foot
silver spring, md - Tuesday, August 20, 2002 at 13:41:59 (EDT)
Let me finish my though...
I didn't see anything about a picnic on echo?
Ncog
Washington, DC - Tuesday, August 20, 2002 at 11:53:17 (EDT)
What up, peeps? It's been a while.
Mobutoo,I think D whole point iz dat WE have 2 make our voice heard. WE
can make sure things aren't done "as usual."
I didn't see anything 'bout a p.
Ncog
Washington, DC - Tuesday, August 20, 2002 at 11:47:10 (EDT)
Will the people get some of that $500,000,000 money or is it going
to be business as usual. Gouvènment alé, gouvènment vini. Yo tout ap mandé
youn kob yo promèt yo ou bien ap prété yo. Pèp la minm ap mouri. If there
is a loan portion, ka nou grav paské kob sa ap gétan séparé. Future generations
of Haitian will owe that money. Antouka bòn chans with all the demands to
congress. Let's hope that this time pèp ayisien a beneficié.
Mobutoo
- Tuesday, August 20, 2002 at 08:30:17 (EDT)
oui fout mezanmi nou met relem we foot just to tell you guys how
much I love to read the gestbook .Big up to echo dhaiti, smoochees,ayibobo
yo pranm & every one else.
sak pase moin pat we jeune yo nan picnic loge la samedi.
moin pap ka la pou Harry Juste map deja N.Y pou labor day weekend nan.Men
zin sa we foot papa moin pap manke'l.
we foot
silver spring, md - Tuesday, August 20, 2002 at 01:04:37 (EDT)
Let Haiti Live! Kite Ayiti Viv!
Haiti Reborn, a project of the Quixote Center is organizing a Lobby Day
in support of the Haitian people's struggle. Haiti Reborn works in the US
on behalf of the Haitian people to build an active grassroots solidarity
movement and to advocate for a more just U.S. foreign policy. Haiti Reborn
organizes this lobby day to demand that the US government release $500 million
in humanitarian aid.
On September 24-25, 2002, Haiti Reborn and other members of the coalition
will demand that the U.S. Senate hold hearings requiring the US government
to release the $500 million withheld humanitarian aid and loan money to
Haiti. Insist that the House of Representative vote on H. Con. Resolution
382 "The New Partnership for Haiti" calling for an end to the embargo against
Haiti. We plan to visit every senator and congressman on the Hill demanding
that they take a stand on this issue and not continue to support the Bush
administration's effort to starve the Haitian people. This Lobby Day will
end with a demonstration in front of the State Department on Wednesday,
September 25, 2002.
Meeting place: 222 E. Capitol Street NE
Haiti Reborn/Quixote Center
Melinda Miles
Melinda@haitireborn.org
(301) 699-0042
Or
Eugenia Charles-Mathurin
(301) 699-0042
Eugenia@haitireborn.org
www.haitireborn.org Eugenia
< eugenia@haitireborn.org>
Brentwood, MD - Monday, August 19, 2002 at 17:11:50 (EDT)
oh oh, ou sont ces gens? ala koze papa.
Smoochees , smoochees, au secours!
yopran'm
- Monday, August 19, 2002 at 14:01:53 (EDT)
gaddon tin tin...
ayiti_rr
- Monday, August 19, 2002 at 13:07:07 (EDT)
LETS LIVE UP TO EXPECTATIONS OF THIS PRESENT TIME.
ALA OWERRI < ALAOWERRI@AOL.COM>
- Monday, August 19, 2002 at 09:52:21 (EDT)
Last night I attended a party with Carimi at Sob's in N.Y
It was truly refreshing to see such talent. Go out an support these young
brothers they are really doing it. I don't belive in love at first sight
but last night I was mesmerized by not just the band but by a special smile
belonging to Carlo
m.a.m < leeelice@aol.com>
rosedale, new york u.s.a - Saturday, August 17, 2002 at 23:02:19 (EDT)
next up in the news:Bush happy with the war on terror. and says:
kill kill kill kill Debra
- Friday, August 16, 2002 at 14:58:23 (EDT)
epa tout moun kite peyi-a!!!!!!! Every body on vacation?? It's nice
to know that Atlanta is in the house.
Kote negVA??
Ncog
Washington, DC - Thursday, August 15, 2002 at 15:02:17 (EDT)
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Atlanta, GA - Thursday, August 15, 2002 at 09:23:41 (EDT)
I'll second that for 2004... Let's make it happen. Demand Change.
map swiv
- Monday, August 12, 2002 at 20:49:10 (EDT)
I wiswh for haiti became a good country
Anex Toussaint < wwwAnex@hpotmail.com>
plantation, fl - Monday, August 12, 2002 at 12:43:15 (EDT)
Oh Nooooo! Not the King? Elvis.... Damn. Well there goes my plan
for a party when I make it to heaven. Well ( an tou ka ). I ma' kahl.. Biggie,
Tupac, Lisa left eye and let'em know the party will have do without the
king..... Damn.
Machiavel
- Thursday, August 08, 2002 at 14:40:41 (EDT)
Oh Nooooo! Not the King? Elvis.... Damn. Well there goes my plan
for a party when make it to heaven. Well ( an tou ka ). I ma' kahl.. Biggie,
Tupac, Lisa left eye and let'em know the party will have do without the
king..... Damn.
Machiavel
- Thursday, August 08, 2002 at 14:39:44 (EDT)
they call Harry Juste "The Nat King Cole of hte Haitian Culture.
ti nèg ak mayo blan nou wè sou flyers yo se tifrè Harry Juste, li te chante
nan dijital express.
Smooch.. map nan Harry tande, na wè...
yo di mwen Vibes ka fè moun danse, danse ploge mwen pral wè sa.
See u all...
BY THE WAY TALKING ABOUT KING, THE REAL KING IS ALIVE: ELVIS PRESLEY. Have
you heard the news. 25 years after faking is death Elvis is coming back
under the lights and the cameras. I will let you know when.
Peace
- Wednesday, August 07, 2002 at 23:43:18 (EDT)
Smoochees, I miss you too girl!!!!
Everything is coool. I will be poppin' my head in a little more often now....
Talk to you soon.
POETIC1
- Wednesday, August 07, 2002 at 09:57:22 (EDT)
Gadon moun....POETIC babe....where the hell have you been?....LOL.
I miss you girl. How's school? How's your poetic thing going? Don't be a
stranger!
Yopranm.....Harry Juste is a very well known singer in Haiti and the group
"vibes" is a new group from NJ kap esayer pran fil.
smoochees
- Wednesday, August 07, 2002 at 08:55:43 (EDT)
Hey Famille!!!!!!!
I hope everyone is doing well. I miss you guys sooooo much. You know how
it is school, life, work, life.... Just passing through to say Sac Pase.
MMMMUUUUAAAAHHHH!!!! on both sides!!!! ;)
POETIC1
- Tuesday, August 06, 2002 at 12:58:11 (EDT)
Folks, who is Harry Juste? what is "vibes" is that a group? Smoochees,
how 's it going sista?
"Saturday, August 31 The Haitian community
presents... HARRY JUSTE and "Vibes" BEST WESTERN
5910 Princess garden parkway, Lanham, Maryland. "
yopran'm
- Tuesday, August 06, 2002 at 12:39:26 (EDT)
O.....peace.....LOL. Ou pa bezwen pe ou pap nan ZIN....LOL. I am
a big girl. I can handle my business :)
smoochees
- Tuesday, August 06, 2002 at 08:52:22 (EDT)
Hello mwen gen de zanmi mwen ki ta renmen ale men yo pa gen Date
tou. Mwen ta ranje afè ya pou smooch e latriye, men mwen pa vle ke lè bagay
yo pase mal pou moun pa mete mwen nan ZIN. lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol
lol lol lol
Peace
- Tuesday, August 06, 2002 at 00:35:48 (EDT)
Ouum....yo di'w non ou di fok...LOL. Ou cho devan ban nan. Let's
do an " I need a date for Zin " type of contest/drawing. What do you guys
think?
smoochees
- Friday, August 02, 2002 at 14:50:30 (EDT)
Smoochees.... sa-aaaa se ou Zin tout bon...."se pa pou dat"......"ohyyy
mamie" anmweyyyyyyy mouin pa kabab anko. Mizik sa yo fe tout sang-m mache....uhuhuhhhhhh.
Echodhaiti help me, I need a date for ZIN...min epouki pa.
Ouum
Mt Airy, MD, - Friday, August 02, 2002 at 10:45:04 (EDT)
Ouumm.....ki ou...LOL. Ou te met pale. Map tande'w. Gadon ZIN ki
vinpou nou. PL$EAE BABY uh uh uh uh...pakite'm darling uh uh uh..I'm sorry
baby uh uh uh.....ANMWEYYYYYYY. Nan ZIN se mache sou 13 pa pile 14
smoochees
- Friday, August 02, 2002 at 09:23:20 (EDT)
Ayibobo----mete pou David.
Smoochees...continuer....mouin rinmin tande parol sa yo. Pitit pou jen-m
ta rinmin danser ZIN..mouin pa prale et mouin paka di pou kisa,,pito-m pa
paler.Amweyyyyyy!
Ouum
Mt Airy, MD, - Friday, August 02, 2002 at 00:00:41 (EDT)
I read the article written by David Gonzalez and posted by April.
After reading it, I wonder what is the point that David was trying to make.
As a journalist, you do not write for the sake of writing. You have have
to either write about something or you write to make a point. I don't think
I see neither in David's article. On top of that, most american journalists
such as David continue to omit the real issues when it comes to the current
haitian situation. First of all, this crisis was created by the International
Republican Institute (IRI) which has provided most funding for the democratic
convergence. one has to wonder first of all which crisis?. IRI at the end
of the May 2000 legislative elections created the democratic convergence
as a way to sabotage the results of the elections and to put in place a
forum that the Bush administration has used as an excuse for not providing
aid to the current haitian government. Aristide himself cannot solve the
crisis since it was created right here in Washington. Second, President
Aristide is right when he called the blocking of the aid an embargo. It
is clearly an embargo against the government of Haiti which represents the
vast majority of the haitian people. David talked about corruption in Haiti.
Yes there is corruption but this govenment has done more in fighting corruption
than many of the governments that US has provided funding to. US supported
the years of the Duvalier dictatorships an example, where was the outcry
for corruption? Haiti has more democratic freedom right now that here in
Washington. Imagine that it was just reported that Candoleeza Rice called
the executives of the big networks and told them not to print certain news.
how about that? We do need an opposition but we need one that can help build
the country but not one that is helping to destroy the country. IRI should
advise their cohorts in Haiti that they should follow the examples of Al
Gore who after George Bush stole the elections from him agreed to forgo
everything and wait for 2004 instead of destroying the foundations of the
american society.
On another point, Aristide himself cannot guarantee the economic development
of the haitian society. David Gonzalez ought to interview those who have
money in Haiti and asks them how come they are not investing in the country.
Most of us in the US do not work for the governemnt. If Rich folks did not
invest their money we would not have had jobs. Everyone has a role to play
in the development of the country. Those who have money cannot figt Aristide
for what he represents. On the contrary, they should help him and help those
who do not have for lasting progress in the contry.
I support the "let Haiti Live Campaign" that the Quijote Center has launched
and everyone ought to support that.
Ayibobo
Ayibobo
Hyattsville, MD - Thursday, August 01, 2002 at 11:32:43 (EDT)
Ok manman
Peace
- Thursday, August 01, 2002 at 10:12:56 (EDT)
LOL@Peace.......wap fe'm ri. Mwen pap fe date ou a sa. Si'm rekonet
ou map bay'w yon ron. Pa plis non....LOL.
smoochees
- Thursday, August 01, 2002 at 09:12:06 (EDT)
Smooch... jan mwen wè ou dezespera ya, pito mwen kite Date pam nan
pou mwen ale avèk ou. Vini non map danse avèk ou tou wi si ou vle. Date
mwen yan se yon demokrat.
Depi ou rekonèt mwen map danse avèk ou. Si ou ka fè sa map danse avèk ou
tout nannwuit lan.
Peace
- Thursday, August 01, 2002 at 02:11:37 (EDT)
Folks, I am going to take my time to reply to David Gonzalez. I
have something to do right now and I will be back!!!
Ayibobo
Ayibobo
Hyattsville, MD - Wednesday, July 31, 2002 at 15:46:41 (EDT)
Peace.....anmweyyyyyyyyyy wap fe'm ri la. "ap gin anpil gason...enjoy".......ANMWEYYYYYYYYYYY!!!.
Al kwe sa non. Mezanmi pito'm pa pale. I don't want to start anything...LOL.
Yopranm, ou konpran mwen?...LOL.
Mwen te met pale?
Peace...that's too bad dear. Enjoy your time with your date. Fe pou mwen
tou. Le wap bay yayad yo sou demi karo, di sa se pou smooch. Bay yon sel
yayad ak tou pwint pou mwen tande.
OK OK OK OK...let me stop. I think I've said enough :)
smoochees
- Wednesday, July 31, 2002 at 14:49:29 (EDT)
thank you David for reminding us where we came from.
Smooch... I hope you and Yopranm will find a date for ZIN. I am sorry, I
already ask someone. Mwen fè resèvasyon mwen de mwa a lavans deja.
Men pa enkyete nou ap gen anpil gason pou kont yo tou.
ENJOY!!!
peace
- Wednesday, July 31, 2002 at 14:05:15 (EDT)
8 Years After Invasion, Haiti Squalor Worsens
By DAVID GONZALEZ
ORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti — Sonia Jean-Pierre's life is one of apocalyptic
misery. With hardly any food or work, her only refuge is a concrete cell.
The searing sun is blotted out by cardboard pasted over the windows. On
the wall by her bed, she has scrawled, "Jesus Christ is coming soon," like
a promise of salvation to greet her every morning.
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Ms. Jean-Pierre and hundreds of neighbors live as squatters inside the old
Fort Dimanche Prison, once the brutally efficient killing chamber of the
Duvalier dictatorships. A prison no longer, it has been renamed, hopefully,
Village Democratie.
The poor cram themselves into the dingy cells and even inside the old sentry
towers that look out over the surrounding shanties, where 2,000 more souls
live without water, schools or electricity. Some are so desperate they eat
pancakelike disks of bouillon-flavored clay. Poverty is the only jailer.
"We are free prisoners," said Ms. Jean-Pierre, who rested one recent afternoon
on the cool concrete floor. "We are still living like prisoners."
Nearly eight years after the United States led an invasion of Haiti to oust
a military junta and restore President Jean-Bertrand Aristide to power,
Village Democratie is just one measure of this country's despairing slide.
Increasingly exasperated with Mr. Aristide's government, which has yet to
resolve a two-year-old deadlock with its opposition, the United States and
European countries have blocked some $500 million in aid, hoping to encourage
greater democracy. Critics say the decision has merely eroded the hopes
and deepened the poverty of this country's seven million or so people.
For a nation as poor as Haiti, withholding the money has become both carrot
and stick. Haiti still lingers near the bottom of the United Nations' annual
survey of living conditions. Life expectancy is less than 53 years. Preventable
diseases go untreated. The yearly income of the average family is less than
is needed to sustain a single person.
Mr. Aristide calls the withholding of the aid an "embargo." His American
supporters, including the Congressional Black Caucus and well-paid lobbyists,
say it is immoral to withhold the aid and punish the Haitian people, as
government agencies go without budgets, plans or projects to provide water,
health care and schools. Some $150 million from the United States, they
note, might not only improve roads, water and health but also create jobs.
Still, diplomats and aid officials say, Mr. Aristide's use of the term "embargo"
reflects calculated rhetoric more than reality. Trade and travel continue,
and relief, including contributions from the United States, flows into Haiti
through nongovernmental groups.
Solving Haiti's problems, they argue, will take more than just an infusion
of aid. Most important, they say, Mr. Aristide has yet to prove that his
government has escaped the corruption and destructive self-interest of governments
past.
Meanwhile, the political stalemate, which arose over a disputed election,
and the international response to it, have stalled what little functioning
government democracy might have brought.
"The situation is getting worse for the majority of the people," said the
Rev. Jan Hanssens, a Roman Catholic priest who sits on the Justice and Peace
Commission of the Bishops' Conference. "There is certainly no hope unless
there is a drastic reassessment of Haitian society itself. If things simply
go on as now, there is no chance."
Along the streets of Village Democratie, faith in politicians is as elusive
as a decent job. Faded posters of Mr. Aristide, wearing the presidential
sash and with his arms outstretched, are his only presence.
Laughing young men crouched at the entrance to the former prison and gambled
a few wrinkled gourde notes, the country's currency. Inside, past corridors
whose crumbled walls reveal a weed-choked courtyard, people walked home
after church clutching hymnals titled "Songs of Hope."
Inside tiny rooms with cardboard walls, slim shafts of sunlight cut through
the haze of charcoal smoke from braziers where pots of rice boiled. There
are no sewers or running water anywhere in the neighborhood, and when the
rains come, they leave fetid puddles where malaria-carrying mosquitoes breed.
"Aristide said here is the room of the people," said Dorlis Ephesans. "But
he has never showed his face here."
Some of the residents had tried to leave Haiti during the 1991 coup that
ousted Mr. Aristide. Some made it to Miami, some died and others, like Israel
Arince, were caught at sea and returned.
The same America that sent him back to Haiti and restored Mr. Aristide to
power in 1994, Mr. Arince said, now makes life impossible.
"They have blocked the country from getting aid," he said. "We are human
beings and we do not like to live like this. Only animals should live here."
In La Saline slum, down a busy road near the prison that is often choked
with carts and traffic, pigs waded through streams of human waste and poked
their snouts into mountains of garbage in a drainage canal. Young women
dropped plastic buckets into a sewer and hauled out a gray water they would
use to wash their floors. Potable water is too expensive.
"There is no way to be healthy here," said Elisena Nicolas, who spends a
third of her income on water. "But you have to keep the children clean."
As hard as it is to conceive, people come to La Saline to escape rural misery.
In the Central Plateau town of Cange, doctors with the Zanmi Lasante clinic
said children commonly died from malaria or diarrhea, while tuberculosis
and AIDS killed their parents. Even polio, once thought to have been eradicated,
has resurfaced recently.
Although the clinic receives no international aid, doctors said they worked
with many Haitian government clinics in nearby villages where the frozen
aid has left them unable to cope. In recent years, their volunteer clinic's
patient load has tripled to 120,000, with patients sometimes walking five
hours for free care.
Dr. Paul Farmer, an American who helped found the clinic in the 1980's,
said he could not prove that the blocked aid resulted in more suffering,
but the deteriorating conditions were evident. International aid, provided
on an emergency basis to charitable groups, was no substitute for a working
government, he said.
"One of the world's most powerful countries is taking on one of the most
impoverished," he said of the United States decision to withhold aid. "I
object to that on moral grounds. Anybody who presides over this blockade
needs to know the impact here already."
But Haiti's record of official corruption and mismanagement, regardless
of who was in power, has given pause to many international aid officials.
A recent study by the World Bank concluded that 15 years of aid through
2001 had had no discernible impact in reducing poverty, since projects were
carried out haphazardly and government officials did not sustain improvements.
Today, for instance, a maze of rat-infested pipes is all that is left of
a potable water project after funds ran out before the pipes could be connected
to the water main.
At the same time, political opponents and diplomats said, the government
has money to provide cars for legislators or pay off neighborhood groups
that are its foot soldiers and that, the opposition charges, have been used
to intimidate government opponents.
As a result, diplomats and aid officials said Mr. Aristide must not only
resolve his political crisis, he must also show that he will allow economic
and administrative reforms to guarantee that any forthcoming aid will be
honestly spent.
"We are saying we want to help you," said a European diplomat, who noted
that the European Union was ready to provide $350 million. "But you must
help us help you. You comply, I'll comply."
Absent any aid or a political pact, people scrape by as they have for years,
sharing what little they have or sacrificing themselves for their children.
In the neighborhood of Fort Sinclaire, a dilapidated maze of shacks, indigent
teenagers with tuberculosis sleep on sheets spread out on hard concrete
porches.
A soft carpet of soggy wood chips blankets the entrance to the neighborhood,
as men carve wooden bowls to sell to tourists who have yet to return to
Haiti. Lionel Agustain, a woodworker, sometimes earns two dollars a day,
not enough to prevent him from losing his home a few years ago.
A friend lets him sleep on a rickety cot inside a gym where the weights
are improvised from gears and other car parts. The walls are tauntingly
decorated with wrinkled posters of bodybuilders with bulging chests and
biceps. Mr. Agustain is thin, and he sometimes eats only a bowl of rice.
"We don't know when they are going to fix things," he said. "We suffer.
And when you suffer enough, you die."
April < oneminonly@aol.com>
Washington , DC - Wednesday, July 31, 2002 at 10:59:22 (EDT)
LOL....Ayibobo...kote ou bare ak foto'm nan? Piga'w tronpe non....LOL.
Ou pa bezwen pe medame yo. Ou te met pwoche. Yo pap fe ka-de-ayibobo sou
ou....LOL
Yopran ou cho....LOL
smoochees
- Wednesday, July 31, 2002 at 10:25:53 (EDT)
Ayibobo, mwen pa gin photo la'a non papito. mwen te na kanaval lan
min Ginau pat fe photo mwen , lol. Anyway, map prepare'm pou mwen danse
avek nan ZIN.
yopran'm
- Wednesday, July 31, 2002 at 08:11:36 (EDT)
Yopranm, apa ou vle touye mwen. Si mwen pat we photo ou, mwen ta
avanse, men le'm gade mwen reflechi, epi mwen fe back. mwen kraponen. bel
medam so yo mwen we-a, sa banm anpil pwoblem. kanta pou Smoochees mim, map
gade selman epi mwen rale ko mwen. Sa yo resi pran mwen vre.
Ayibobo
Ayibobo
Hyattsville, MD - Tuesday, July 30, 2002 at 16:33:35 (EDT)
Come on Ayibobo! Ou ka gin plis experians ke ampil moune la'a. Mwen
ta bien rinmin danse avek ou , jan granmoune danse bien.
yopran'm
- Tuesday, July 30, 2002 at 16:22:48 (EDT)
mwen mim, mwen two jen pou bel medam sa yo. mwen pa gin tout kouraj
sa yo anko. Mwen pase.
Ayibobo
Ayibobo
Hyattsville, MD - Tuesday, July 30, 2002 at 16:20:28 (EDT)
Mwen min mwen two jen pou bel medam so yo. Mwen pa gin tout kouraj
sa anko. Mwen pase.
Ayibobo
Ayibobo
Hyattsville, MD - Tuesday, July 30, 2002 at 16:14:04 (EDT)
O Yopranm.....se yon gwo sevis wi ou mande'm la. Bon ou we map chache
pou tet pam. Mwen ta byen rinmin al sikre nan ZIN too. That makes 2 of us
dear. Nou bezwen date. Echodhaiti....fe yon ti raj gason non....LOL. HELP
us find a date for ZIN.
Mesye yo.....get the HINT...
smoochees
- Tuesday, July 30, 2002 at 11:17:44 (EDT)
Smoochee's , hook a sista up with a date mami. Mwen vle al sikre
nan zin, but no date...
yopran'm
- Tuesday, July 30, 2002 at 07:52:02 (EDT)
Peace....bagay yo grav net wi la. Djazz la gin pwoblem teknik. Zin
an mande yon date extraordinaire wi. Ou pa ka vole pompe nan zin non. Se
kanpe en place epi renmase yayade....LOL. I don't know yet about zin. Mwen
pa ka al chita gade moun kap sikre devan'm nan. Ke'm a gren....LOL.
Anybody else going? Mesye chache date nou tande. Piga nal met espwa nou
sou ZIN ki pou fe nou jwen yon fanm tande. Na decu wi. Se mache ak tout
afe'w pou pal depen de fanm lot neg ak pran bek nan min fanm.
Also.....do no forget about ZENGLEN.....mezanmi wo...trop djazz dous nan
town nan. MICKY kote'w.....LOL
smoochees
- Monday, July 29, 2002 at 22:36:10 (EDT)
Peace....bagay yo grav net wi la. Djazz la gin pwoblem teknik. Zin
an mande yon date extraordinaire wi. Ou pa ka vole pompe nan zin non. Se
kanpe en place epi renmase yayade....LOL. I don't know yet about zin. Mwen
pa ka al chita gade moun kap sikre devan'm nan. Ke'm a gren....LOL.
Anybody else going? Mesye chache date nou tande. Piga nal met espwa nou
sou ZIN ki pou fe nou jwen yon fanm tande. Na decu wi. Se mache ak tout
afe'w pou pal depen de fanm lot neg ak pran bek nan min fanm.
Also.....do no forget about ZENGLEN.....mezanmi wo...trop djazz dos nan
town nan. MICKY kote'w.....LOL
smoochees
- Monday, July 29, 2002 at 22:35:01 (EDT)
Smooch ... Zin ap vini le 21 sept. Mwen envite tout moun pou yo
la. We gonna have fun!!!
Peace
Washington DC, - Monday, July 29, 2002 at 19:09:55 (EDT)
Moi....mwen dako avek ou. That's exactly what I should have done
smoochees
- Monday, July 29, 2002 at 14:47:53 (EDT)
People on the Board, please. Don't let someone's concerns or opinion
lead you to the wrong side of the road. Le Jeregarde ap li sa ke nou ecri
yo, mouin gin impression que li croise pie pou-l ri nou. I have nothing
to say this time because if you all can go back in March or April, we had
similar issues envers gason lan zone Washington, D.C. We did point our fingers
on some people on the board. We all thought that it was fun. Now, why are
you all taking Jeregarde's comments seriously.
Entouka sa ke mouin oue, board lan te quiet, Jeregarde reveille-l. Peace.
P.S. Smoochees, the people on the board konnin ke ou mouin serie, just say
thank you to Jeregarde for her advice and move on.
Moi
Bethesda, MD - Monday, July 29, 2002 at 11:43:23 (EDT)
BTW, welcome to the board PEACE. I like your way of thinking.
smoochees
- Sunday, July 28, 2002 at 18:55:14 (EDT)
PEace.....Well said. I could not have done a better job. I am speechless.
You guys said it all for me. I have nothing else to say. Hope Jeregarde
learned a lesson from this. Le ou pa gi anyen pou di ak diol ou, ou femin'l.
Paske le ou ouve li se KK ki soti ladan'l.
Se pa fot Jeregarde. He/she se yon moun ti espri, ki pa kon la vi a, kap
swiv chemin manman ak papa li. Se yo ki mete li nan eta sa a. Chaje moun
tankou Jeregarde ayiti. Mwen pense le yo te vin icit yo tap yon lot jen.
Mais c dommage. All I can say is podiab pitit ou yo (if you have any). Ti
mentalite korido a ap pase de generation a generation. Se pou nou met yon
fin nan sa wi.
Jeregarde who are you to judge to people? Bon dye ki bon dye li tan le'w
mouri pou'l juje'w. Ale we ou. We should have ignored your a**. We made
a big mistake by replying to you. Guess what.....we just put ourselves on
the same level as you. DANM US!!!
smoochees
- Sunday, July 28, 2002 at 18:53:14 (EDT)
Kai....mete pou ilitre a. Min li tou.
Welcome Big belle.
Ayibobo...we miss you babe. I am glad that you are back.
Now...let me go finish reading. BRB!!!
Map vin pou Jeregarde. BTW, sa'w fe pa gade pito.
smoochees
- Sunday, July 28, 2002 at 18:37:36 (EDT)
Ayibobo pou yon nonm tankou Ayibobo, Chapo Machiavèl, nou se moun
kap reflechi e ki gen pawòl saj nan bouch nou.
Je ne pense pas que "Je regarde" méritait une réponse (He/She is a disgrace
for all haitians).
Je reviens de la classe moyenne d'Haïti j'avais les presque les mêmes problèmes
que "Je regarde", bien sur j'étais un enfant. je présume que "Je regarde"
n'a pas plus de 10 ans. Parce que c'est à cet age que j'ai commencé à comprendre
l'essence de la vie. Yon jou mwen wè manman mwen tap sèvi nan kabarè, yon
chany ki te vini netwaye soulye. Li te utilize vè ke li te renmen plis la.
Yon vè plen glas, plen jis nan bouch ak dlo Culligan (Dlo trete).
Depi lè sa la vi mwen te chanje.
C'est dommage que "Je regarde" n'a pas eu des parents comme les miens. Je
suis un homme béni, j'ai été élevé sans aucun complexe malgré que le nom
de ma famille c'est glissé au fil du temps, dans les rangs de ce qu'on appele
les VIP de notre petit pays. C'est pas ce que tu crois "Je regarde", moi-même
je traduis VIP: Valeurs-Intellect-Pondération.
Je sais que tu ne comprndras pas, car c'est trop fort pour ton sal museau.
Alors suis les conseils de Ayibobo, vas t'instruire sur les bancs de la
vie.
PEACE TO YOU ALL. Mesdames vous êtes très jolies - Restez vous-mêmes.
Peace
Washington DC, - Saturday, July 27, 2002 at 22:00:25 (EDT)
Plime, your point is?
ban ti sezi, you can tell that thing wasn't that great back home...
Be real...
Kai
- Saturday, July 27, 2002 at 14:51:27 (EDT)
To Plim "Jeregarde is saying what he/she is saying for a reason."
Say what???
Anyway, enough of this nonsense crap... can we just move on.
Ayibobo , au secours!
xoxo
- Saturday, July 27, 2002 at 10:19:41 (EDT)
Kai.....Go {{MESSAGE EDITED - WEBMASTER}}.
Jeregarde is saying what he/she is saying for a reason. If you are not sure
about something... YOU ASK {{MESSAGE EDITED - WEBMASTER}}.
plime
Hagerstown, MD, - Friday, July 26, 2002 at 17:02:50 (EDT)
map swiv:
i definately agree with you. Trini's do let loose and they'll dance with
anyone at a party, young and old. There are no hang ups about who you are
or about where you come from. Everybody is just out to have a good time
and show off their dancing skills. I guess that's why i don't know much
about my Haitain side. (Besides the fact that most of the haitian family
i know here in America are 30's and up)But is that the way young haitians
are too? Do the younger ones dance the same as older folks do? Please tell
me that younger haitians (which i assume yall are) can let loose a little
more and get they grooves on. ( i don't want to sound stupid but i really
don't know. I'm the only haitian here in my school practically and when
we have to throw Carribean parties i can always represent on the Trini's
but i really am clueless as to what music is popular among haitians)
big belle < durand62@potsdam.edu>
ny - Friday, July 26, 2002 at 14:07:34 (EDT)
@Kai, whoa! Bali boulova... say what?
Tell them ...
xoxo
- Friday, July 26, 2002 at 13:56:40 (EDT)
Map dil a map redil anko, se nan rekreasyon nou tout ye isit nan
zeta zini... Tout mounn kap cheche class, se mounn ki sure de tet yo, yo
bezwen relation pou yo sa santi yo ro nan societe ya... Je Regarde, let
me tell you one thing" si crapo te bon viande, se pa sou recif lan li ta
vin mouri" kapiche...l'habit ne fait pas le moine...You need to educate
yourself...and I don't mean a BS, BA or higher...
Stop acting stupid....
kai
- Friday, July 26, 2002 at 12:50:07 (EDT)
Thank you Machiavel and Mapsuiv. I hope you practice what you preach.
Je Regarde
Chantilly, VA - Friday, July 26, 2002 at 12:23:30 (EDT)
Jeregarde, thank you for your explanation. How did you come up with
such a name? Ala traka pou ayisyen papa.
Yopran'm
- Friday, July 26, 2002 at 11:52:57 (EDT)
We as people on this planet continue to classify others in order
to elevate ourselves. "JeRegarde" perhaps you should know people don't choose
the so-called "Ghetto". It's a system they find themselves in created by
those who seek to exploit the innocent/powerless/. Haiti is "ghetto" we/our
parents are from there whether we admit or not we all are from the ghetto
maybe on different levels but it's all ghetto. The education you get the
car you drive the neighborhood you live in does not make you any better
than the guy/gal who live in "Barry farms, SE DC". They have been dealt
a different deck of cars we've been lucky to have had opportunities they
didn't get. No matter how much money I make and how many languages I speak
and vowels and numbers on my car's trunk I remain equal to my brotha/sista.
Witness September 11th the folks sitting in the World trade center may have
had far more material goods than me however when their lives got snuffed
from them..... we all realize we are equal..... "JeRegarde" I pray for you
and all those who think as such ! Peace my sista.
Machiavel
- Friday, July 26, 2002 at 11:39:40 (EDT)
Hello everyone... I am looking to buy a car. Does anyone know of
a car for sale I am looking for something nice reliable and fairly priced.
Please post a note to let me know. Make/model/price
Murielle
- Friday, July 26, 2002 at 11:15:44 (EDT)
It's incredible how people from one of the poorest countries in
the world can discriminate based on "ghetto" or not "ghetto." Depending
on what you want to compare it to, 98% of Haiti can be "ghetto." Jeregarde,
please get some help. An opinion CAN be wrong.
Mezanmi pran tet nou.
map swiv
- Friday, July 26, 2002 at 11:10:02 (EDT)
Yopran-m, for me, "tet zotey" means "ghetto". Some people may have
l'argent, but they are still "ghetto". Ayibobo, is that right or wrong?
You can't answer either, because this my opinion.
Introspect, my perception is that I believe one should do a little research
about certain people b/f interacting with them.
Je Regarde
Chantilly, VA - Friday, July 26, 2002 at 10:10:00 (EDT)
Big belle welcome. Hope I was off target with the Trini comment.
But you can see it at Trini parties, clubs, in DC Carib Festival, the Trinidadians
let loose. They dance, they laugh, they have a good time.
Haitians watch others more than they try to have a good time. What "type"
of people, what they're wearing, how they dance, who they dance with, etc...
It's really too bad.
map swiv
- Friday, July 26, 2002 at 09:54:08 (EDT)
hi everyone i'm new to this site! It's funny that i fount this site
when i did. one of the first entries i read was map swiv's-I'm actually
half haitian and half trini.lol I know a lot about trini culture but i do
not know much about haitian culture among the youths. I want to know more
about where i can go dancing (long island area or the city also i go to
school around canada, if there are any montreal clubs i can go to), what
music groups i should listen to. My dad taught me a little bit but Les Embassador(my
dad was in this band) probably is not the hottest group out there now. lol
p.s.- je comprends beaucoup de francais mais pas de creole. Donc, ecit en
francais et englais. merci!
big belle < durand62@potsdam.edu>
ny - Friday, July 26, 2002 at 09:20:24 (EDT)
ayibobo! Ayibobo, welcome back ! It's always a pleasure reading
from you sir.
To JeRegarde, what do you mean by "tet zotey" ?
Yopran'm
- Thursday, July 25, 2002 at 18:13:37 (EDT)
People, I was not raised the way Ayibobo assumed. Only one thing
I can say to you, I believe most people are judged by their reputation,
right or wrong. I don't normally classify people the way, again, Ayibobo
assumed. If I have done it this time, there must be facts. I don't judge
the book by its cover. I've been in the Maryland area since 1975, people
come and go. There were some very good ones and some not so good. There
were younger ones, who are now adults (am an example). Personally, I have
not had any bad experience with anyone in the Haitian community. Rather,
I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. Maintenant dis-moi donc,
is that a 1804 mentality or 2004. Simplement, il y a une expression qui
dit "Dis-moi qui tu frequentes et je te dirai qui tu es." A vous tous Bonne
Chance et Bonsoir.
Je regarde
Chantilly, VA - Thursday, July 25, 2002 at 16:36:37 (EDT)
I was just trying to find a cutie's name. Ayibobo, for once I agree
with you, but how different the Haitians are from the Trinis. The Trinis
talk about you if you're TOO stiff at a carnival. The Haitians talk about
you if you have too good of a time.
Come on board, this year's carnival was TOO positive to let this person
bring down the mood. IF YOU WERE AT THE CARNIVAL AND YOU LIKED IT LET ME
HEAR YOU!!! You owe it to WACAHAPA, to EChodhaiti, to the DJ's from Columbia,
etc.,,,
Jeteregarde, leave that 1804 mentallity behind and get with the 2004. OK?
map swiv
- Thursday, July 25, 2002 at 15:11:51 (EDT)
I have to say a few words because I cannot remain silent regarding
the statement that the person from Chantilly, Va has made. This is the biggest
problem of today's society and it includes Haiti. Many of us think that
we are better than others and we put ourselves in a different category and
all of that is imaginary. You called the people who were with Smoochees
"Tet Zotey". First of all if you were an educated person, you would have
noticed and praised the fact that that day we (haitians) were all united
under the colors of our country. Second, those who you are calling Tet Zotey
are nothing than haitians like you and I and that the society in Haiti never
gave a chance, an opportunity. I bet you they are the same people that when
they migrate to Port-au-Prince and became "Restavek" at your homes (suppose
you had one in Haiti), you jumped on them(The Tet Zotey) at night and force
them to have sex with you but yet you call them Tet Zotey. They have a chance
to come by boat but glory to you who made it by air. They are the boatpeople
and you are the airpeople. If things were that good for you, why would you
come here for 9-5 and living paycheck to paycheck. I agree with Smoochees
when she said we may know wveryone but we can select our friends while recognizing
that we are all one. The same ones that you are calling Tet Zotey today
could be your nurses tomorrow in a hospital. Tout moun se moun and chak
moun dwe respekte chak moun. All of the girls on the pictures are 4 beautiful
young women and they were even more beautiful in the red and blue.
Ayibobo
Ayibobo
Hyattsville, MD - Thursday, July 25, 2002 at 14:00:00 (EDT)
LMAO@XOXO
smoochees
- Thursday, July 25, 2002 at 12:20:01 (EDT)
Je regarde....merci pou advice la. I'm sorry that you had a bad
experience nan komunote a. Mwen pa kwe se mwen ou we a. E si se ta mwen,
mwen pa frekante tet zoteil. Mwen pale ak tout moun, I associate with the
whole community mais tout moun pa zanmi'm. Pa juge moun. I've been here
since 1993 and so far I can stay that mwen poko jenm nan anyen. Yo po ko
jenm foure'm nan okin sos pwa. You know why....paske mwen fe respe'm. A
cause de temperame'm, tout moun rinmin'm. Alors ki pwoblem pou'm ta gin
la.
Anyway dear, thanks for the info. Hope you come back and visit us again.
smoochees
- Thursday, July 25, 2002 at 12:18:11 (EDT)
keske le blanc a di? translation pliz!
xoxo
- Thursday, July 25, 2002 at 12:17:38 (EDT)
Mes amis, j'ai vu Smoochees lan carnival an avek quelque tete zoteill,
et pi li fe photo avec eux aussi oui. Smoochees ou tro famm eclaire pou
wap hang avek these type of people that bateau lage nan zone Maryland lan
kap vinn cheche rang. Mouin mimm, mouin retire corp mouin lan zone Maryland
lan when I started to see these parvenues dans la communaute haitienne.
Mouin rete bien loin map regarde bann ti mesdames ki semble ki ginyin classe
yo, letting these boat drops vinn layite body yo nan communaute an. Gade
mesdames open up your eyes and you, Smoochees, stay away from people.
Je regarde < Chantilly, VA>
- Thursday, July 25, 2002 at 10:21:42 (EDT)
mwen tap pale de kat medam bò atik la. They're all cute, but the
3rd one from the left is very cute...anyway, map swiv
map swiv
- Wednesday, July 24, 2002 at 19:35:20 (EDT)
nice site web design
agencies uk
- Wednesday, July 24, 2002 at 15:34:24 (EDT)
nice site web design
agencies uk
- Wednesday, July 24, 2002 at 15:33:25 (EDT)
Map swiv.....why do you care anyway? Ou rekonet mesdame yo?
smoochees
- Wednesday, July 24, 2002 at 13:56:28 (EDT)
Yopranm......mesi manman....LMAO
Map swiv....pa okipe yopranm tande. Li pa kon mesdam yo
Alon ou sa...
smoochees
- Wednesday, July 24, 2002 at 13:55:43 (EDT)
Yo, konsa menm ou revele identite'm san'w pa mande'm?
Tinana
- Wednesday, July 24, 2002 at 13:48:50 (EDT)
Yopran'm, mèsi pou repons la.
kanaval la te bèl.
map swiv
- Wednesday, July 24, 2002 at 13:03:56 (EDT)
I am the one wearing the blue perruque. Smoochees is the tallest
one and the other one is tinana.
Yopran'm
- Wednesday, July 24, 2002 at 12:04:30 (EDT)
Hope I'm not the only one here.
Can anyone tell me who those girls are on the "DC Carnival 2002" page? I
see them before on this site.
map swiv
- Monday, July 22, 2002 at 14:46:20 (EDT)
Nice Site! U did good work here! Keep it up! Steven
D
- Sunday, July 21, 2002 at 19:28:37 (EDT)
Mwen la wi. What's going on here. Apa bouch tout moun bekeke. OO!!!
HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
smoochees
- Friday, July 19, 2002 at 13:03:50 (EDT)
We're all burned out from 2 much summer activities? What's up with
dis picnic I hear 'bout?
Ncog
Washington, DC - Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 23:33:45 (EDT)
coucou, where's everyone? smoochees ....
xoxo
- Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 14:31:38 (EDT)
Regarde, ou sont passes les STARs de ECHODHAITI.com???
Tinana
- Wednesday, July 17, 2002 at 13:35:34 (EDT)
You know what, come to think of it....BREF sou bagay sa tande. I
am moving on.
Menti....T-Vice pics are up....YESSSSSSSs...mwen pral fe jouda...LOL
smoochees
- Tuesday, July 16, 2002 at 14:26:29 (EDT)
Machiavel....I was not making any bass at that time. You go back
to the posts dated from Apr-Jun 2002 (which I just did), none of my posts
were about accusations toward the accuser nor allegations. I don't know
him like that. I don't know his personal life. So why would I accuse him
of anything? All my posts were about Strings vs Koudjay, exploitation, benefits,
false advertising and so on. So nan kisa wap vin foure'm la. Please tell
me....nan kisa mwen tap fe bass la...
smoochees
- Tuesday, July 16, 2002 at 14:24:47 (EDT)
Just in time for a different subject... mwen wè foto t-vice sou
eko.
map swiv
- Tuesday, July 16, 2002 at 14:19:22 (EDT)
Personally , I do not care about what either party has to say about
one another. Who really cares about the face behind the pseudo? Si gin moune
ki fache se ke, sa yo di yo se vre. Everyone has his/her right to express
their opinion as long as it does not involve personal attack.
This is my personal opinion, I believe Mr Zephir is trying to gain some
respect after what happened last month. Nap discussion en vain, nou pa we
que Jean Zephir ap ridiculize nou. Like Smoochees said, I think it's time
for us to move on.
xoxo
USA - Tuesday, July 16, 2002 at 13:51:24 (EDT)
Wait a minute ! When Ayibobo was making his allegations, fabrications
and "tripotayi" about the other folks Smooches "ou te la tap fe bass"....
So I do think JZ has the right to bring him out.. Had Ayibobo not attack
the other folks than I would agree however if you're going to make accusations
the man has the right to face his accusers.... Pa vin' fe lach....wap cache
nan fe nwa pou pale moun mal. This board was very peaceful Until Ayibobo
came with his negativity. So I say bring it on so we can have closure.
Machiavel
- Tuesday, July 16, 2002 at 13:20:42 (EDT)
Le JZ ak Ayibobo tap separe ajentri eske nou te la pou nap vin foure
bouch nan zafe yo. Tout moun nan polemik. Selman....se nou kap wont wi.
Mwen pale nou.
smoochees
- Tuesday, July 16, 2002 at 11:32:57 (EDT)
map swiv....se zin ou bezwen fe.....Well, I am not the one.
BTW.....and your point is...
smoochees
- Tuesday, July 16, 2002 at 11:31:07 (EDT)
Smoochees, you weren't saying that when it was Ayibobo making allegations.
We don't need to know the man's SS#, but JZ has the right to bring him out.
Bring out the "facts" like Ayibobo said. He said some bad things about a
couple of people, facts or not, that weren't part of the discussion, so
it would be good to know who he/she is to know where he/she was coming from...
map swiv
- Tuesday, July 16, 2002 at 11:08:30 (EDT)
I thought this feud ended. What's all this? Who cares about who
is who. Is this some type of pay back? This is so ridicule. Two wrong does
not make a right. One of you need to ignore one another and move on with
this. This is not kindergarden. Trying to get back at someone as a pay back
does not make you a bigger person. It just shows how low you are. You are
just putting yourself in a lower category. No offense Ayibobo. I am just
speaking in general. Ayibobo....I hope you be the bigger person and ignore
all this childish non-sense ignorant issues...
Se pa zin nou vin fe la.
smoochees
- Tuesday, July 16, 2002 at 08:51:06 (EDT)
Ah ah Echodhaiti, ala kote gin koze papa. Ayibobo, I guess you are
no longer undercover. Apparently you and mr zephir know a bit about one
another, huh, interesting!
Ayibobo, I hope you are not leaving the board, we need you here. Come on
, pa koute kole'w.
XOXO
- Monday, July 15, 2002 at 15:35:08 (EDT)
Ayibobo
Please dont go, I will forgive you because you make the board interesting,
about respect for your fellow board members, yes Jean Zephir represent,
here is a treat:
Photo album of STRINGS is available on www.ejzdesign.com go to Login enter
user name as ( reston ) no password click enter, enjoy the pictures. allow
20 second to load
If any one care to know Ayibobo Real name and S/S, community affiliation,
family history, HS, kids name. I will not disrespect my fellow country man
on echodhaiti guestbook
but If you email me, I will reply promtly IF, IF you care to know.
See you @ Los Arrieros Fri. July 26 HAPPY HOUR
This is our way of saying: THANK YOU!
Come and enjoy a viewing of Strings & Milissa Performances, and DANCE to
the Music of MASTERG, Dj Sweet, Woolado, JohnB.
Night Hosted by: Ce Soir Productions & XPOZE Magazine
FREE B4 10PM All drinks $4.00!!! 7pm to 10pm (KOMPANET)
So do not miss this occasion to relax in the warm Caribbean atmosphere amongs
friends.
PEACE, LOVE and UNITY Lets Party
Strings Man < jean@ejzdesign.com>
Silver Spring, MD - Monday, July 15, 2002 at 15:13:28 (EDT)
Bon voyage presley.....Have fun for me
smoochees
- Sunday, July 14, 2002 at 18:20:58 (EDT)
Smooch ou se nimero...??? mwen pa sonje. lol
Anyway mwen pral Ayiti demen lendi ya, na wè nan yon mwa ankò.
presley
Silver Spring, md - Sunday, July 14, 2002 at 13:27:50 (EDT)
Kimbe'm......WELCOME to the board. Enjoy and have fun
smoochees
- Saturday, July 13, 2002 at 11:46:50 (EDT)
Smoochees, do not worry, from time to time you will hear from me
until such time that we hear and meet again.
I am not going to waste my time on Machiavel.
Ayibobo
Ayibobo
Hyattsville, MD - Friday, July 12, 2002 at 22:26:45 (EDT)
I would like to say thank you somuch guys for your comments
about us dj's that was hold it down in front DR. POUYES. FOR THE CARIBBEAN
CARNAVAL THIS YEAR, your concern, your critics is important for us to improve
our way of doing thing.... dj woolado,dj sweeet,dj John B.AND from New york
dj dificile an I;We all thinking positively.it's the only way we can change
thing , please remember together we are a force. ALSO i want to thank you
DJ' Jean Michel and my man GINAU for having this web site for us.
thank you ,
"Masterg"
masterg < masterg_100@yahoo.com>
silver spring, md - Friday, July 12, 2002 at 22:13:22 (EDT)
I would like to say thank you somuch guys for your comments
about us dj's that was hold it down in front DR. POUYES. FOR THE CARIBBEAN
CARNAVAL THIS YEAR, your concern in your critics is important for us to
improve our way of doing thing.... dj woolado,dj sweeet,dj John B.AND from
New york dj dificile an I;We all thinking positively.it's the only way we
can change thing , please remember together we are a force. ALSO i want
to thank you DJ' Jean Michel and my man GINAU for having this web site for
us.
thank you ,
"Masterg"
masterg < masterg_100@yahoo.com>
silver spring, md - Friday, July 12, 2002 at 22:09:57 (EDT)
Hi, my name is Kimbe-m and I would like to become a member on the
board. I want to start by saying that it is a very interesting site because
I've been following some of your conversations for quite some time now.
But, from what I've seen lately, you all need to avoid argument or provocation.
The best way to keep it simple is "don't take anything personal" because
you don't even know who's who outside the board, another words just keep
everything positive.
Kimbe-m < enolo@hotmail.com>
hyattsville, md - Friday, July 12, 2002 at 21:44:51 (EDT)
Well... all I am saying is Ayibobo comes on this board with more
negativity without merit than anyone. He claims peace and unity yet has
brought more about people's irrelevant past than we care to know. The cover
of anonimity the cyber world has allowed him to point out failures, allegations
and shortcomings in other men's lives in our community. I wonder what someoneone
else would point out about him/her without the cyber cover. We all in life
have had to do things that are unorthodoxed. Every great man in Society
have had critics to discredit their efforts to move forward. Ayibobo needs
to keep that negativity somewhere else and not bring it to the board unless
he allows his accusers the same opportunity to challenge his background.
Machiavel
- Friday, July 12, 2002 at 21:13:40 (EDT)
Moi and Yopranm....I know we have Zin in September, Zenglen, and
Micky in October. This weekend we have DJ Blast. Come out and support. Nou
tap plinyin pa gin plezi nan MD, min DJ yo ap mete pou nou. Yon gin kek
tan ya frape. So please vin supote yo. Apres na di MD raz.....LOL
smoochees
- Friday, July 12, 2002 at 20:26:22 (EDT)
Thanks Ayibobo. I would love to meet you one of these days. I think
it will be nice. But bagay yo pa bezwen rive jis la. We are here to have
fun, meet people and change ideas. I love reading your posts. I really enjoy
them. We should not take things personally. We are here to be ONE...to REUNITE....not
to destroy each other.
For my sake.....would you please keep reading and posting on the board?
We have a very good base of peopl here on the board and I would hate to
see anybody leave. From the botom of my heart, it will not be the same with
out you. So what do you think? Will you keep posting?
smoohees
- Friday, July 12, 2002 at 20:22:55 (EDT)
Machiavel, no hard feeling. I just wanted to explain to you where
I am coming from. We got that straight.
Smoochees, it is nice to appreciate and it is even greater to learn to appreciate
other people's actions even those who you do not like personally. We haitians
we have to overcome this. It is not only myself but everyone else as long
as you are doing good things from the goodness of your heart for the benefit
of the entire community. I am telling you Smoochees without flattery that
you are doing it, having fun and helping others have fun also. This is great.
Next time I see you I will give you a big hug and kiss. At first I did not
see that in you. I guess you just cannot judge a book by its cover. Not
that you do not look nice. Go have fun and enjoy.
I am going to take a break and I am not writing again because it seems that
Machiavel has some problems with my posts. I ma just going to read.
Ayibobo
Ayibobo
Hyattsville, MD - Friday, July 12, 2002 at 14:49:04 (EDT)
Smoochees....Mouin la, map suiv. Ouap voye monte sou board la, manman.
ki sa ki gin yin weekend sa-a.
Moi
- Friday, July 12, 2002 at 14:40:13 (EDT)
Smoochees, mwen we ke wap fe la pluie et le beau temps sou echodhaiti,
mwen ba'w yon ti espace. You know how we do. I am well. Taking it easy...
What 's up for next month? Any bals?
yopran'm
- Friday, July 12, 2002 at 13:20:49 (EDT)
Moi....where have you been? Kote Yopranm? Gin anpil moun mwen pa
we sou board enko. ope everything is well.
smoochees
- Friday, July 12, 2002 at 12:58:32 (EDT)
OK machiavel...apology accepted....lol
Ayibobo.....mesi anpil wi. Mwen we ou voye'm monte...lol
It's nice to feel appreciated. Now I can do a better job than yesterday.
Knowing that there are people out there who respect and appreciate what
I am doing.
Konya la mwen gin yon sel fos ki monte'm. Map pike pou pi devan
Thanks again guys...
smoochees
- Friday, July 12, 2002 at 12:55:43 (EDT)
Smooches... lol..lol... No bek ! I apologize if it sounded that
way. I was simply seeking an answer from Ayibobo which I got. Thank you.
Machiavel
- Friday, July 12, 2002 at 12:04:42 (EDT)
I got it Ayibobo. Point well made. I just tought since you're so
quick to point out the personal failures of others it would be easy for
you to point out your successes.... Smooches on the other hand, I should
point out, has not been as accusotory as you have been. That is why I did
not ask her the same question. However you made your point I got the answer
I was seeking. There no hidden agenda just a simple question...........
Machiavel
- Friday, July 12, 2002 at 11:47:44 (EDT)
Machievel....O!!1 Knsa minm...Gadon bek...O!!!
I was only trying to avoid some arguments...that's all
Mwen pap foure bouch mwen nan afe'w enko tande
I was not defending Ayibobo...
Mesi papa
smoochees
- Friday, July 12, 2002 at 11:37:54 (EDT)
Machiavel, I wonder why you are so concerned about what was posted
earlier. I think I know what you are trying to do, but you will not get
me to play this game. I DID NOT POST ANY ALLEGATIONS, I POSTED FACTS and
I REPEAT FACTS. You go check them out. My way of acting in the community
is to support everything that is productive and constructive for the advancement
of haitians. I am not and I will not support anything that is done for personal
gains, for self-enrichment at the expense of this community. I will support
people with good intentions and good hearts. One such person I notice on
this board is Smoochees. She thinks and reasons and acts, and she does it
unselfishly. She does not seem to be a backstabber. She is straightforward.
I appreciate people like that. I will not support thieves, drug dealers,
murderers, ti-visie who are trying to make money or to live off the back
of our community and I will not support playboys. we have had enough of
those. I want real people fighting for real causes and for the advancement
of our community. We can unite but we have to make sure who we are united
with. My support as well as the support of thousands of others in the community
will always be counted on as long as the right thing is being done by the
right people for the right causes. That is my answer to you Machiavel.
Ayibobo
Ayibobo
Hyattsville, MD - Friday, July 12, 2002 at 11:33:05 (EDT)
Machiavel, I wonder why you are so concerned about what was posted
earlier. I think I know what you are trying to do, but you will not get
me to play this game. I DID NOT POST ANY ALLEGATIONS, I POSTED FACTS and
I REPEAT FACTS. You go check them out. My way of acting in the community
is to support everything that is productive and constructive for the advancement
of haitians. I am not and I will not support anything that is done for personal
gains, for self-enrichment at the expense of this community. I will support
people with good intentions and good hearts. One such person I notice on
this board is Smoochees. She thinks and reasons and acts, and she does it
unselfishly. She does not seem to be a backstabber. She is straightforward.
I appreciate people like that. I will not support thieves, drug dealers,
murderers, ti-visie who are trying to make money or to live off the back
of our community and I will not support playboys. we have had enough of
those. I want real people fighting for real causes and for the advancement
of our community. We can unite but we have to make sure who we are united
with. My support as well as the support of thousands of others in the community
will always be counted on as long as the right thing is being done by the
right people for the right causes. That is my answer to you Machiavel.
Ayibobo
Ayibobo
Hyattsville, MD - Friday, July 12, 2002 at 11:32:59 (EDT)
Well your contributions have been well documented Smooches..lol...
I am not referring to you. If you don't mind I would rather have an answer
from Ayibobo. No need to defend him/her it's a simple question.
Machiavel
- Friday, July 12, 2002 at 11:31:55 (EDT)
Don't forget DJ Blast party is this Saturday. ladies free before
9:30pm. So mesdame map tan nou tande. DJ Blast can really bust some beat.
So come out and check him out.
smoochees
- Friday, July 12, 2002 at 08:42:11 (EDT)
OOOHHHHH machievel....bay vag non. Let it go babe. This is dragging
too much and getting old now. Let's move on. I believe we all have contributed
in this community somehow. It could be anything. No need to find out what
the contribution was. By going to parties/blas is a contribution to me.
So babe, en nou kite sa tande. Bagay Jean Zephir ak Harold sa is old news.
smoochees
- Friday, July 12, 2002 at 08:39:28 (EDT)
OKay !! Now that we have heard what all the "tripotay-i" and allegations
that Ayibobo has accused people with on this board, would it only be only
fair to ask what contributions has he brought to the community..? Good or
bad whatever you had to say about Jean Zephir and Harold Joseph and others
we will agree they haved taken some level of initiative in the community
allowing you to critize and we can all learn from their mistakes. Now what
have you done Ayibobo what can we learn from you ?
Machiavel
- Thursday, July 11, 2002 at 20:48:46 (EDT)
>> Contrôle-toi avec ta tête,
>> > >Supporte les autres avec ton coeur.
>> > >Si quelqu'un te thrahit une fois: c'est sa faute.
>> > >S'il te trahit deux fois: c'est ta faute.
>> > >
>> > >Les grands esprits discutent d'idées.
>> > >Les esprits moyens discutent des événements.
>> > >Les petits esprits parlent des autres.
>> > >
>> > >Qui perd de l'argent, perd beaucoup.
>> > >Qui perd un ami, perd encore plus.
>> > >Qui perd la foi, perd tout.
>> > >
>> > >La beauté des jeunes, c'est une erreur de la
>> > nature.
>> > >La beauté des personnes âgées, c'est une oeuvre
>> > d'art.
>> > >
>> > >Apprends des erreurs des autres,
>> > >Car tu n'as pas le temps de faire toutes les
>> > erreurs!
>> > >La vie n'est pas assez longue...
>> > >
>> > >Hier, c'est de l'histoire.
>> > >Demain, c'est un mystère.
>> > >Aujourd'hui, c'est un cadeau!
>> > >
>> > >C'est la semaine de l'amitié.
>> > >Démontre à tes amis qu'ils sont importants.
>> > >Envoie ce message à tes amis.
Moi
- Thursday, July 11, 2002 at 15:17:33 (EDT)
Echodhaiti,
Tanx for showing my beautiful people from Haiti, Koudjay and my boyz on
Georgia with DJ Woolado. Seems like the town in moving positively right
now. I am "SO PROUD" of you guys. Everyone keep up the good work so we can
have a place in the future to relieve some stress and anxiety after a long
week of work. Remember, together, we are a force. Hopefully, next year we
will kick the Trinidadian butts with some good Haitian Carnival tunes.
Ce soir and Xpoze Productions,
This sounds like real and pure fun to me. I'll be there. I just mark this
day in my calendar.
Is any member of Strings going to be there at the Happy Hour?
Is the food going to be free?
Will there be a dance party after 10:00 P.M?
Please provide us more info on the board.
Thank you------------ONE LOVE
Sandra
Silver Spring, - Thursday, July 11, 2002 at 15:15:36 (EDT)
N.B. MasterG Have been added to the list for the July 26, Haitian
HAPPY HOUR at Los Arrieros, Stay tune for the showing of DC carnival 2002
from the eyes of XPOZE Magazine in August Happy Hour
Strings Man < jean@ejzdesign.com>
Silver Spring, MD - Thursday, July 11, 2002 at 08:10:16 (EDT)
Ginette on behalf of Xpoze magazine and associates, we want to WELCOME
YOU. We are Your friends. I always consider someone my friend until he or
she give me a reason not to. We are family. Please let us know when ever
your are in town so that we can take you on a grand tour of the capital.
I also would like to say a special thank you to Echo D'Haiti for giving
us and the community an opportunity to keep in touch and also for all the
pictures and memories. GINAU I think I know who you are and next time we
meet I will introduce myself. Once again, THANK YOU. We need more of you
guys in the community. Kimbe la pa lage.
We are family.
On behalf of Xpoze Magazine this is John B. signing off.
PEACE, LOVE, and UNITY.
JOHN B.
John B.
Columbia, Md - Thursday, July 11, 2002 at 08:04:13 (EDT)
Dear Friends of Strings and Xpoze Magazine,
First of all, a big thank you for coming to Strings’ dance on Friday June
28 at the Holiday Inn.
We at Ce soir Productions, Inc, are proud of having kept our promises of
providing with quality entertainment in a friendly atmosphere. Strings’s
performance was fantastic and the addition of a female singer to the group,
Melissa Dauphin, was just the icing on the cake.
Would like to relive these nice moments?
Well, then come and join us on Friday
July 26 at « The Arrieros » at 7926 Georgia Av., Silver Spring, Md. We will
be having a «Happy hour » from 6 p.m. to 10 p.m. and from 8 p.m. to 10 p.m.
ONLY,
we will be showing video clips from Strings’s other fantastic performance
at the Reston Town Center this past Saturday June 29. Of course, admission
is FREE till 10 p.m.
So do not miss this occasion to relax in the warm Caribbean atmosphere of
« Los Arrieros ».
There will be a cash bar and all drinks will be $4.00 from 7PM to 10PM ONLY.
So come and enjoy Strings on video and dance later to the music of D.J.
Woulado, John B and D.J Sweet……Xpoze Magazine and associates on Friday July
26, starting at 6 p.m. This is our way of saying : Thank you !.
If you want to see more of Strings, visit the web site at : www.ejzdesign.com
Strings Man < jean@ejzdesign.com>
Silver Spring, MD - Thursday, July 11, 2002 at 02:52:06 (EDT)
GINAU........bravo........bel pics. Job well done once again. A
PA OU!!!
smoochees
- Wednesday, July 10, 2002 at 15:23:06 (EDT)
Yopranm ou toujou la pou af chofe bagay yo. Ou we'm ignore comment
lan ou minm nan wap reveller le chat qui dort....LOL. Yo di'w non ou di
FOK!
POZE'W.....LOL. Pawol sa yo pa impress mwen. Mande Presley ki numero mwen
ye nan list la. Kombyen fanm li bay pawol sa kimbe deja e konbyen nan yo
ki kwe'l tout bon.....LOL
Presley...tell us!
smoochees
- Wednesday, July 10, 2002 at 13:35:18 (EDT)
Smoochees, min ou tou, apre wa di ou pa jwen' "Quand je t'ai rencontrée,
tu luisais comme l'étoile qui guida les Rois mages au Petit Jesus." Gade
grose pawol ke Presley ap lage , ouch!
Smoochees gade ki effet ou fe sou malere yan.
Yopran'm
- Wednesday, July 10, 2002 at 12:46:43 (EDT)
WELCOME to the board GINETTE, kote tout ayisyen se star. Nou tout
se zanmi la. So tell us a little bit about yourself. We know you are from
FL...what else? Have you ever been to DC?
smoochees
- Wednesday, July 10, 2002 at 09:29:47 (EDT)
Presley....trust dear I do. T-Vice was too packed for to notice
anybody. Dailleus se pa mwen te vin regle. Se konpa'm mwen te vin danse.
Anba chale sa kote'm te veye ki moune ki la ak ki moun ki pat la. NUHHHHHHH
babe. Mwen pat ka rend moun sevis sa du tou. Gin anpil moun ki di'm yo te
la e mwen pat we yo. Anyway....se ou ki te mande'm koman T-Vice la te ye
epi'm mande'w si'w pat la.
Ncog......Nice suggestion. I will find that out for you. We probably won't
start doing anything till we find out the winners for the carnival. I just
hope we win again. I will let WACAHAPA know your suggestions.
smoochees
- Wednesday, July 10, 2002 at 09:28:23 (EDT)
PEACE... LOVE... UNITY... I thought about that too Ayibobo., but
it is too late.
Smooch... You don't know who I am. How come you are asking me if I was at
T-Vice??? haha!!!
Quand je t'ai rencontrée, tu luisais comme l'étoile qui guida les Rois mages
au Petit Jesus.
Presley
Silver Spring, md - Tuesday, July 09, 2002 at 23:24:22 (EDT)
Smoooooocheeees, iz WACAHAPA having a public meeting? some suggestions
dat Ayibobo made R very good. Let's start fundraising NOW.
Ncog
Washington, DC - Tuesday, July 09, 2002 at 23:22:04 (EDT)
Ginette, Consider everyone on this board Ur friend. Tells us about
U
Ncog
Washington, DC - Tuesday, July 09, 2002 at 23:19:57 (EDT)
i want to know if there is anyone who would like to be my friend?
Ginette < ftc4931190@aol.com>
Lake Worth, FL - Tuesday, July 09, 2002 at 18:54:48 (EDT)
OOOPPSSS.....I meant 10 days...sorry...lol
smoochees
- Tuesday, July 09, 2002 at 12:22:16 (EDT)
That's exactly in 121 days babe......too late for that.
smoochees
- Tuesday, July 09, 2002 at 12:21:50 (EDT)
It is the weekend of July 19, 20 and 21. You are right, it could
be too late but just think about it.
Ayibobo
Ayibobo
Hyattsville, MD - Tuesday, July 09, 2002 at 11:51:13 (EDT)
Ayibobo...when is it? It might be too late. It's hard to raise money
when you have no support what so ever.
smoochees
- Tuesday, July 09, 2002 at 10:44:37 (EDT)
Allo everyone, is it too late for Wacahapa to take part in the Baltimore
Carnival? Smoochees, what do you think?
Ayibobo
Ayibobo
Hyattsville, MD - Tuesday, July 09, 2002 at 10:14:11 (EDT)
Allo everyone, is it too late for Wacahapa to take part in the Baltimoe
Carnival? Smoochees, what do you think?
Ayibobo
Ayibobo
Hyattsville, MD - Tuesday, July 09, 2002 at 10:13:51 (EDT)
Pierre Richard....thanks babe. Now you got me blushing...LOL
XOXO....LOL@u
Presley....mwen byen kontan ke ou rekonet mwen. Se pa ou sel non ki konnin'm.
At least now you know who you're talking too. Don't think that I don't know
you (hahaha) T-Vice was good. Where you there?
smoochees
- Tuesday, July 09, 2002 at 08:54:49 (EDT)
Smoochees, ou jwen', lol!
xoxo
- Tuesday, July 09, 2002 at 07:55:26 (EDT)
PEACE...LOVE... UNITY
mezanmi, nou dire tròp nan afè DJ sa. Je suis fatigué de ces commentaires
négatifs. Pèsonn pa di yon mo sou ide ke mwen lanse ya, à savoir aider la
sélection haïtienne de footbal à se préparer pour la coupe du monde 2006.
Mwen wè ke nou pito fè "zen".
Quand vous aurez quelque chose de positif à discuter j'y participerai.
Smooches kouman T-Vice la te ya. Mwen tande ke ou mennen Tifa! Kounye ya
mwen konnen ki moun ou ye, se ou ki pa konnen ki moun mwen ye. A la prochaine
Presley
silver spring, md - Tuesday, July 09, 2002 at 00:38:07 (EDT)
Ayibobo,I just wanted to say that the points are made and life goes
on.
Pierre Richard
Pierre Torchenot < pierretorchenot@hotmail.com>
columbia, - Monday, July 08, 2002 at 22:11:41 (EDT)
Smooches,it is always a pleasure to see you. You look better each
and every time.
Pierre Richard
Pierre-Richard Torchenot < pierretorchenot@hotmail.com>
columbia, md - Monday, July 08, 2002 at 21:19:33 (EDT)
up something: when someone has... <<MESSAGE EDITED - webmaster>>,
don't talk about your "good name". That was too much to take and I had to
rectify this.
Many times in our community, we have a lot of people around us and we do
not know them at all. And worst of all, they are taking advantage of us.
It is nice from time to time for someone to let us know who this or that
person is. And I would welcome that all the time.
Ayibobo
Ayibobo
Ayibobo
Hyattsville, MD - Monday, July 08, 2002 at 13:42:38 (EDT)
Gino.......thanks for the pics. Now where are the carnival pics?
smoochees
- Monday, July 08, 2002 at 08:54:23 (EDT)
XOXO.....se pa ti kras minnin non. Map fe tankou'w.....lol. Map
pran yon break tande. I'm gonna lay low for a good while....lol
smoochees
- Monday, July 08, 2002 at 08:53:29 (EDT)
Can we all get along? Smoochees, tu menes, anmweyyyyyyy, ala ou
sa manman... le sa bon di li bon...
XOXO
- Monday, July 08, 2002 at 08:02:58 (EDT)
Thank you for the smoochees Pierre Richard. Mwen we ou pa blye'm.
It was nice seeing you last night.
smoochees
- Sunday, July 07, 2002 at 23:58:59 (EDT)
Hey Pierre-Richard,
It's Okay to have a favorite DJ. Jean-Michel is been your friend for the
longest. That is why you feel that you have to express yourself in this
fashion.
1)Do not send mixed feelings on the board.
2) Don't try to step on the others.
3)Don't go around the bushes.
From your post, I sense that you have something big against the two other
DJ's you have mentioned in your post. Why mentioned them among all in the
list? Are you in denial? Cause I party a lot and everywhere. The only thing
I can say is that I haven't heard John B for a while, but he knows his stuffs.
For two straight years, we didn't hear from DJ Jean-Michel. You have to
face the reality. But DJ Woolado was constantly playing very good here and
there. The same way that Agimal gave out trophies before to the DJ's, he
should have also gave DJ OF THE YEAR 2001 to DJ Woolado. Agimal and crew
know it also. This year, 2002 Master Compas did a good job in keeping Silver
Spring alive. DJ Woolado have made and still making a lot of noise in this
town. Right now some DJ's are trying to make a come back in the area, I'm
very happy and wish them luck. Pierre-Richard all three qualities you have
just mentioned, those guys have all of them, plus they are not limited.
By the way, when is your next bal?
Don't let fanatism block your eyes.
It's all good to have your favorite DJ, but don't critize others without
knowing how helping others advancing further.
Big Respect to all the Dj's making it happen in our community... PEACE...LOVE...UNITY
Joe
Silver Spring, - Sunday, July 07, 2002 at 23:44:40 (EDT)
Thank you AYIBOBO...
Machiavel.....go back to the post and montre'm kritik mwen an
smoochees
- Sunday, July 07, 2002 at 23:43:02 (EDT)
Machievel....go back to mypost honey. Mwen pa kritike peson. Mwen
te juste ap fe komente sou sa yo di a. Mwen pa nonmin nom peson. Read my
post and you will see that for yourself.
smoochees
- Sunday, July 07, 2002 at 23:40:59 (EDT)
Se mouin....poze'w tande. I don't need to gie anymore details about
my comment. Moun ki pou konnin an kon sa map pale a. Kreole pale kreole
konpran. So si ou pa konpan sa'm di a se ke pawol la pat pou ou.
smoochees
- Sunday, July 07, 2002 at 23:36:45 (EDT)
PEACE, RESPECT AND UNITY. "WE" are the best. Let us start our comments
that waay to follow someone's advice.
I would like to see the Red and Blue at Munich in 2006. Let us give our
National Soccer Team more attentions and more supports. Why not trying to
help them prepare for the world cup 2006. For example having them come here
to play against teams like Washington, NY-NJ, Miami.
It is an idea, Let us think about how to make it happen. Everybody is invited
to post what they think about it, and to help anyhow.
PEACE, RESPECT AND UNITY. WE ARE THE BEST.
Presley
silver spring, md - Sunday, July 07, 2002 at 10:21:24 (EDT)
Ayibobo, I respectfully disagree with you, regardless of your age.
If what you said was true and he did go to prison,
it was still wrong foryou to exposehis private affairs. Most of us die not
knowing how to live which is of utmost importance. I am still emphasizing
that I am not defending him, I just wanted to let you know that your actions
were unprincipled. If I ever loved you then rest assure that the love is
still here. I hope to see you tonight @ Harold's T-VICE
Pierre-Richard Torchenot < pierretorchenot@hotmail.com>
columbia, - Saturday, July 06, 2002 at 18:09:24 (EDT)
Pierre-Richard, I am 71 years young and I am still going young.
I know and I know of almost anyone in this community. It is a small one
and when you do things, people talk about it and people will know about
it and most of the time they are right. When I check, I find out that it
is true. So I have a peice of advice to you: Do not take any case that you
are not ready for it. You just arrived here so just learn young boy!!! that
is my advice to you.
Ayibobo
Ayibobo
Hyattsville, MD - Saturday, July 06, 2002 at 15:33:56 (EDT)
PR, U R a man of CLASS and wisdom beyond your young years.
Haiti Sport wouldn't it be beautiful if Haiti made a 180 degree turn after
2004?
Let's make it happen.
Ncog
Washington, DC - Saturday, July 06, 2002 at 07:48:09 (EDT)
've been very amused lately whenever some new accomplishment of
the Williams sisters -- Venus and Serena -- is mentioned in this fashion:
The first sisters ever to play in the finals of a major tournament... The
first sisters ever to rank 1-2 in the world... as if all sorts of other
sisters through the years have made the semifinals or been ranked third
and fourth. Let's put this in perspective: What Venus and Serena have achieved
-- two sisters being the very best in the world at one thing -- is not only
unique to tennis, not only unique to all major sports, but also, as far
as I know, unique to all human endeavor. The only brothers I can think of
who stood 1-2 in their field were Wilbur and Orville Wright, and they invented
their field...32 years after the great world cup of 74, the 11 pounds trophy
is taking a 2nd trip to Munick...MAYBE, just a simple MAYBE Germany is the
only place where the RED AND BLEUE can be raised in a World cup...
HAITI SPORT < Germany2006@Haiti
will be there>
Haiti, - Saturday, July 06, 2002 at 07:33:17 (EDT)
Ayibobo,I've been a observer on this site for some time now, rarely
do I post a comment or a concern. I've seen you make personal attacks on
Jean Zephir that are uncalled for whether they were true or not. However,
this post is not intended to defend Jean Zephir for he is well capable of
doing that himself. Comments that you made about the so called "DJ's" caught
my attention, and as a music lover, I am
breaking my silence. There are a handful of positive people in our community,
among them John B and Woolado who are involved in music. I would not classify
any of them as DJ"s. I do respect them because they are men of characters
and we need more of them. Impartially, Jean-Michel is the only DJ in this
community and who is not limited to our community. I've been around the
block a few more times than the ice cream truck so I encountered quite a
few wannabes. As a promoter, I can tell you that a DJ does not initially
make a club. It is the quality of your promotion that brings and keeps your
croud coming back for the most part. Some of the Dynamics of DJ are as follow:
charisma, articulation, imformation and improvisation to name a few. Without
any equivocation or mental reservation Jean-Michel is the DJ. Smooches for
smooches.
truly,
Pierre-Richard Torchenot
Pierre Richard < pierretorchenot@hotmail.com>
columbia, md - Friday, July 05, 2002 at 22:39:42 (EDT)
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Silver Spring, MD - Friday, July 05, 2002 at 19:58:45 (EDT)
Ncog, I am glad you brought it up and I am going to tell you exactly
what they should do to have an even better participation at next year carnival:
1) They have a committee. Although they have a track record because this
is the second time that they have done it therefore they have accumulated
some credibility in the community. They should come out with the names of
all the members of the organizing committee so that people will know exactly
who they are dealing with.
2) They should develop a plan. They have to have a budget of approximately
how much it is going to cost them and have an idea how they are going to
raise the money.
3) They should not remain in their little area in the community thinking
that they can make it by knowing so and so. They have to go beyond that
and try to reach as many as possible within the community.
4) They have to start the fundraising activities right now. Do not wait
until next year because it is going to be too late.
5) they have to start a letter campaign right now. First by thanking those
who have contributed and who have participated and start asking for funding
contributions right now.
6) they have to be visible in every function in the community to raise the
issue and ask people to participate.
7) They have to tell people how much they have raised and what they are
doing with it. Otherwise, They have to be transparent. When you are collecting
money, people would like to know what you are doing with it. Rumors will
run and they would lose credibility.
Finally they have to associate themselves with people with credibility.
There are people with bad track record in the community and people will
be reluctant to deal with them. Those are some of the ideas that I have
for the committee.
Ayibobo
Ayibobo
Hyattsville, MD - Friday, July 05, 2002 at 14:26:11 (EDT)
Ayibobo, my nerves come from the 2 heavy stones that God gave me.
Droppin' names ("Gino") won't give U any credibility. Dis iz a small community,
every one knows almost everyone.
U keep bringin' dis Neg vibes in dis site dat's VERY positive. U R NOT discussin'
-- U R making allegations and accusations. Ayibobo let's discuss, positively,
how Haitians can improve their participation next year in the carnival
Ncog
Washington, DC - Thursday, July 04, 2002 at 11:58:14 (EDT)
NCOG, see you got some nerve asking me for the positive contributions
that I have brought to this site. If it was not for me, we would not have
had the level of discussion that we are having. Think about it. It is good
and it is healthy and this will help our community grow and become better.
This is my contribution and I will continue to do that as long as Brother
Gino is paying for the site remain active. Thanks my brother Gino and good
job.
Ayibobo
Ayibobo
Hyattsville, MD - Thursday, July 04, 2002 at 08:27:23 (EDT)
This is great to see how we are communicating and I hope it doesn't
turn into something ugly. The reality is that it's doesn't worth it. All
of you made some very good points. But it should all be in the name of fun,
after all We all are playing the same music. My view, and I'm speaking for
all the other DJs that were with me, is that it's time that we as Haitian
pull together. Myself personally, I participate in most and every haitian
function. It doesn't matter who the DJ is. It's all about music and bringing
some live in the community in PEACE, RESPECT, and UNITY. All other nations
are doing it, Why not us?
SMOOCHES why don't you e-mail me at johnb@xpozemagazine.com for more details
on the upcoming party.
Thanks all for your comments and lets keep the communication line open;
that's GOOD.
On behalf of Xpoze Magazine and associates, I want to extand our sincere
thanks to Echo D'Haiti and it's staff for all they're doing in the community.
Keep up the good job.
Peace, respect, unity and much love to all of You.
God bless.
John B.
John B.
Columbia, Md - Wednesday, July 03, 2002 at 21:34:49 (EDT)
People...People
Let's not try to blow out things in proportions. Tou't mou'n gin fanatic
pa yo. Which is good in a way to make effort. Silver Spring, we believe
in Jean-Michel, in Columbia it's all good if they believe in their DJ. I
heard that DJ several times before at Fund-Raisinds, graduations, ect...I
have to admit he is VERY GOOD. And he is the very first DJ I've seen playing
with Lazer lights, Frog machine, and a crystal sound.
Give him what he deserves.
Peace to all of them making happen in our community.
Marie
Hyattsville, - Wednesday, July 03, 2002 at 18:49:25 (EDT)
Man, I keep missing the good stuff... We done with Haitian men,
we done with Jean Zephir, we done with Harold Joseph, NOW, we're on DJ Jean-Michel???
Ayibobo, iz Jean-Michel a Macout??? an X con??? or, iz he a threat to "homeland
security"????
By de way, can U point me to something positive U've contributed 2 dis board???
Ncog
Washington, DC - Wednesday, July 03, 2002 at 17:42:53 (EDT)
Machiavel, either you do not understand where I stand or you try
to act like you do not understand. I am trying to bring constructive judgement
and so does Smoochees. I agree when she said that the fact that you are
related to someone does not make that person the best. I fully agree with
her. We haitians tend to be selfish. We only see ourselves and our family
and no one else exists or is doing great things. We have to change. Try
not to say that "I" am the best, but rather state "WE" are the best. Machiavel,
repeat that every morning before you leave home and you will see the difference.
Ayibobo
Ayibobo
Hyattsville, MD - Wednesday, July 03, 2002 at 16:51:16 (EDT)
I was not trying to start all of this. I was simply giving props
to a brotha holdin' down. Hataz hataz..!! An tout ka Smooches avek Ayibobo
m'we nou la pou nou kritike moun..selman le se tou pa nou piga'm tande pale
ampil...lol... Respect to each and everyone
Machiavel
- Wednesday, July 03, 2002 at 16:41:18 (EDT)
This is true, Jean-Michel is been there for the longest and well
known, much respect for him. But ask any other Haitian DJ'S in the community
their opinion about that particular DJ in Columbia, I forgot his name but
not DJ Jon B. They will tell you. Stop player hating. They assembled as
many DJ'S possible. That should tell you guys that they were about UNITY.
Kimbe la pa lage
Sandra
Silver Spring, - Wednesday, July 03, 2002 at 14:57:52 (EDT)
This is true, Jean-Michel is been there for the longest and well
known, much respect for him. But ask any other Haitian DJ'S in the community
their opinion about that particular DJ in Columbia, I forgot his name but
not DJ Jon B. They will tell you. Stop player hating. They assembled as
many DJ'S possible. That should tell you guys that they were about UNITY.
Kimbe la pa lage
Sandra
Silver Spring, - Wednesday, July 03, 2002 at 14:57:11 (EDT)
Se pa sa-a apa nou vire sou do ti neg la (Jean-Michel)kon nie ya.
Nou gin problem big time bo isit la. Sispan-n kritike.....si ke nap kritike
fe-l pou yon bon cause, pou yon bagay ki fe sense....Smoochees min-m ou
se kouto 2 bo, ki sa ou vle di......"ta fe yon ti komente sou sa pareil
ou di a min si ou fe-l ya mete'm deyo sou board la".
Mouin ta di nou plis....min mouin bouel pou nou.
se mouin
- Wednesday, July 03, 2002 at 13:18:51 (EDT)
Jean Phillip...thanks for the site :)
smoochees
- Wednesday, July 03, 2002 at 12:02:47 (EDT)
I hope you all celebrate JULY 4th and the freedom of speech that
America gives you, even if it say nothing of importance.
Thanks EchodHaiti for giving us a place where we can voice our opinion,
even to critice you. Mèsi anpil!!
map swiv
- Wednesday, July 03, 2002 at 11:39:20 (EDT)
You can view the pictures taken at the DC Caribbean Carnival 2002
now at www.LIQUIDFLEX.com under the music section. Enjoy.
Jean-Philippe Charles
- Wednesday, July 03, 2002 at 11:36:06 (EDT)
Smoochees, Kreyol pale, Kreyol konpran'n.
Love
Ayibobo
Ayibobo
Hyattsville, MD USA - Wednesday, July 03, 2002 at 11:13:06 (EDT)
Min pwoblem nou minm ti ayisyen ginyin an wi. Nou rinmin kritike
trop. Nou pa jenm satisfe. Se sak fe nou pa ka fouti arive a wi. Just because
you know somebody does not mean he/she is the best. Banm la pe'm!!! Give
the others their credits too. Like I said, tout DJ yo bon. Pa gin youn ki
pi bon pase lot. Tout jwe bon konpa. Me yo chak gin fanatik pa yo. Si nou
chita ap tande yon sel DJ a koman pou nou fe konnin ke lot yo bon. Minyin
mache tande lot DJ yo tou non. Nou chita nan yon sel kwen an. Si se politik
nap fe, fe li en demokrat tande. There's a difference between playing good
konpa/100% konpa ak rocking a crowd. A good international DJ pa vle di ke
li kon voye konpa monte.
Ayibobo...mwen ta fe yon ti komente sou sa ou di a me pitit si'm fe sa ya
mete'm deyo sou board la. Alors en nou kite sa tande.....LOL
smoochees
- Wednesday, July 03, 2002 at 10:36:38 (EDT)
I agree with Smoochees and this is my point. Let us encourage all
of them but do not try to put one above the other or make it look like one
is super good than the other one. Also congratulations and sincere THANK
YOU for the DJs who were at the clinic of Dr. Pouyes. As some of you saw,
it was the only place where haitian music could be heard other than on the
float. That was a good idea and should be applauded.
Ayibobo
Ayibobo
Hyattsville, MD - Wednesday, July 03, 2002 at 10:28:52 (EDT)
Machiavel.....don't start babe. Pa gen konpetisyon la. Chaje ak
DJ nan town e yo tout bon. Chak neg yo gen crowd pa yo ak fanatik yo. Tout
ap minnin. I've been to all their parties except DJ John B. They are all
good. Yo tout voye bon konpa ak bon son. Let's give it up to our DJs....Suspen
kritike.
smoochees
- Wednesday, July 03, 2002 at 10:16:40 (EDT)
Hi everyone.....John B, CONGRATULATION......I must say you guys
didi a WONDERFUL JOB. I, myself did not know who you were. I was so shocked
and so proud when I got in front of Dr Pouyes' office. THANK YOU!!! THANK
YOU!!! and THANK YOU again. WE LOVE YOU MAN...
Tell us more about this party on the 20th.
smoochees
- Wednesday, July 03, 2002 at 10:13:29 (EDT)
Hi everyone and it was a beautiful day last Saturday. Everything
was great even the weather. I fully agree with all the comments regarding
the carnival. Regarding the last issue about the DJs, I am taking issue
with some of the comments that I have seen. We ought to compliment and encourage
all the other DJs but not trying to ridicule or making one think that one
DJ JnMichel is better than all the others. My question to you is: If DJ
JnMichel was all that, how come he cannot remain in one place? no personal
feeling and no harm intended. It is just that Jn Michel has been living
here for long time, has a lot of families here but yet he can never remain
constantly at a place and bring the animation that characterizes a good
DJ. I can name all the places where Jn Michel has played. The lates victim
being the OASIS. Everywhere he goes, as soon as he starts playing, the business
goes down and He moved on to the next victim. So it is time to promote the
other DJs and see if we can have something constant in our community. the
question is: Is Jn Michel really what some of you think he is????
Ayibobo
Ayibobo
Hyattsville, MD - Wednesday, July 03, 2002 at 09:34:40 (EDT)
Florence, you can say that again about Jean-Michel....he remains
THE ONE & ONLY ONE in the community. No competition here.....tout DJ ici,
lot bo ki gin yin yo se bouda nini. Depi yo tande non JeanJean prale joue
yon kote yo panike; tet yo chaud.
The man is a Professional International DJJJJJ,.....nou pa konpran-n.
Pa ba ti neg lan gros pied pou mouin nan....lol...
Gino, I can't wait to see the Carnival's pictures on the site.
Peace!!!
se se ZIN
- Wednesday, July 03, 2002 at 01:13:30 (EDT)
It seems to me there was close to half a dozen DJ's there it sounded
to me like they were playing music "BUT THEY WERE NOT DJ'ng". I have heard
many in washington, Jean-Michel remains the one and only real DJ in the
Washington Haitian community, and when I talk to other DJ's he is regarded
as one of the top Int'l Dj's in DC. When I was in school at George Washington
University 1990, that brotha Rocked a party for us for approximately 1500
students he probably doesn't know but I have the pictures to prove it.
Florence K.
- Tuesday, July 02, 2002 at 23:43:04 (EDT)
hmmm... I smell a commercial on the board... Oh.! ala kote gen
DJ papa si'w additione tout = 1..lol ,lol...amweyii! Antou ka pami tout
DJ sa yo. We know who the best in town is no need to mention the name. I
still have yet to see one of these other so called DJ's really move a crowd.
m'la-a map gade.
Machiavel
- Tuesday, July 02, 2002 at 23:25:45 (EDT)
First of all I want to say thank you to all who participate in the
2002 DC Caribbean Carnaval. A special thanks to those of you who've noticed
the Xpoze Magazine group that was in front of Dr. Pouyes and would like
to know who are these guys. I was one of the member of the group. We are
from Columbia and we wanted to represent Haiti in the carnaval and thanks
to Mr.& Mrs Dr. Pouyes for making it possible. It was a few DJs there amongs
them were DJ Sweet, DJ Difficile, Master G, and myself DJ John B.(100%Kompa)
but the one that was mixing was DJ Woolado from Columbia, Md. He can be
reached at 1800 966-5418.
By the way Xpoze magazine will be releasing its next issue at a party on
July 20, 2002. Get your copy. For more info call us at 1800 966-5418 or
e-mail me at johnb@xpozemagazine.com
Thank you all and God bless.
John B.
John B.
Columbia, Md - Tuesday, July 02, 2002 at 22:07:04 (EDT)
This is so true, I witnessed the same thing. They were right in
front of Dr Pouyes office. Can some body tell us the name of the DJ that
represented.
Anyway, I have to say VERY GOOD JOB to these guys. They saluted Kouday and
Wachahapa like 3 times, mixed "leve pie'w and "helicopte'a ". They really
moved the crowd and gave away a lot of Haiti T-Shirts, Haiti key chains
and Haiti Flags.
BRAVO ... BRAVO ... BRAVO
Jean
- Tuesday, July 02, 2002 at 20:43:21 (EDT)
This is so true, I witnessed the same thing. They were right in
front of Dr Pouyes office. Can some body tell us the name of the DJ that
represented.
Anyway, I have to say VERY GOOD JOB to these guys. They saluted Kouday and
Wachahapa like 3 times, mixed "leve pie'w and "helicopte'a ". They really
moved the crowd and gave away a lot of Haiti T-Shirts, Haiti key chains
and Haiti Flags.
BRAVO ... BRAVO ... BRAVO
Jean
- Tuesday, July 02, 2002 at 20:42:34 (EDT)
Speaking of Carnival?
Who was these people and the Haitian DJ holding it down for the Haitian
on a stand on Georgia Ave, across from Wendies Restaurant.I think I saw
EXPOZE MAGAZINE up there.
It was very nice to see how they represented Haiti and Brazil to the fullest.
How come noone gave them props. They did an excellent job and their sound
was very very very good comparing to Koudjay.
Todd
- Tuesday, July 02, 2002 at 18:34:49 (EDT)
database@srclarke.com S.R.
Clarke
- Tuesday, July 02, 2002 at 17:15:07 (EDT)
Thank you Ted for the pics. I agreed a 100% with Mobutoo. The Carnival
was nice. It would have been better if we had more support. Last year we
had more support from the community. Anne sa mwen pa kon sak pase yo. We
did everything we could with the little bit we had. WACAHAPA and its staff
deserve a hand shake. Se grace a yo minm nou paticipe nan Caribbean kanaval
la chak anne. Hopefully will be a better year
smoochees
- Tuesday, July 02, 2002 at 14:31:09 (EDT)
I was at the Caribbean Carnival last weekend and it was great. I
just looked at Ted Mebane webpage and gin youn problem pou nou travay lot
annee. C'est que nou nan 2 ou 3 photos seulement, nou pat gin abimen. Lot
annee, li ta trè bon si nou gin plus moun ki abiyé pou kanaval la. Congratulations
to WACAHAPA pou good job ké yo fè pou nou té ka paticipé. Therefore next
year we need to support them as much as we can so that we can be as colorful
as the others.
Mobutoo
- Tuesday, July 02, 2002 at 12:36:10 (EDT)
DC Carnival 2002 photos are online at www.tedmebane.com
Ted Mebane
washington DC, DC - Tuesday, July 02, 2002 at 09:31:12 (EDT)
Hey, for the second year in the row I have had beautiful DC Carnival
images of people wearing items with Haiti written on it. I would love for
them to see their pics. Take a look at the website and see if you know any
of them. Peace, Ted Ted Mebane
Washington , DC - Tuesday, July 02, 2002 at 09:29:25 (EDT)
Congratulations to everyone who went to the DC Carnival. It was
beautiful. Haitian flags, t-shirts, scarves, Haitian colors every where.
Thanks to WACAHAPA, KOUDJAY, and everyone involved to make this a great
Haitian involvement.
Let's do it again next year
EchodHaiti.com < webmaster@echodhaiti.com>
- Monday, July 01, 2002 at 09:45:14 (EDT)
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